Islam is not bad, too many of you are ignorant of history.

[Mr Khan]

badgenome said:

MrBubbles said:

badgenome said:

So Islam isn't inherently fucked up, it's just currently fucked up? That sure is a relief.

I got a good laugh out of this, though. I guess it was the way it was written. "Come on, man!" "Problem is you don't know history!" etc. It reads more like the middle of a conversation than an OP.  So... thanks for that.

sort of is the middle of the conversation, the other thread got locked

Ah. Now it makes sense.

Anyway, yeah, obviously any religion is only what its adherents make of it. I'm not exactly hopeful that a country where 95% of the women have undergone a clitoridecomy will become a liberal democracy in my lifetime, but I suppose it's not outside the realm of possibility.

Change often comes all at once. While i would agree that your assessment is realistic, ultimately once societies are ripe for progressive revolution, it will occur successfully and transformatively.