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bobbert on 22 February 2011
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Xbbjf9s said:
bobbert said:
fordy said:
Xbbjf9s said:
fordy said:
Xbbjf9s said:

question, can sony just make a new console with better security? like ms did.

I don't know there. If they did, it would not be backwards compatible, since the old system relies on the master keys for publishing.

This is why I think more needs to be done on the server side, where they still have the capability to control this.

????the new models aren't backwards compatible.

It depends on the situation. I don't think the 360 has it's master keys stolen, people just moved around the security there. Once a master key is made public, the only way to fix it is with a new iteration of hardware (ie. a new gen)

The new models aren't backward compatible because the xbox emulator required 8GB of hard drive space. Users wanted their 8GB of HDD space back. The version of the xbox means nothing, there are tools available to put the xbox emulator back on your hard drive.

ETA: adding it onto your new HDD won't get you banned from XBOX Live, either

Sony removed backward compatibility and OtherOS because it cost them money to keep up development for new models. I don't think for a second that it was because of hackers. There were already rumors of them killing off OtherOS, and that's why they had to make a press release about how they weren't disabling it to keep users happy. Once they found a scapegoat to take the blame for getting rid of OtherOS, that's who they blamed.

Recently, there have been/will be rootkits available for Android, iPhone, WebOS, Windows Phone, XBox 360, PS3, and the Wii. Apple tried to sue, they failed. Sony is trying to sue, they will most likely fail as well. Everyone else is sitting and watching how it plays out but is smart enough not to waste money.

Because if they win bet you money MS and Ninty may follow up. The difference between apple and sony is that hardware involved...a phone and a game system


No, the main difference is that Sony is the only company that does not provide an SDK for all users, a homebrew one had to be developed after geohot's exploit surfaced. There is hardware involved with all of my examples. Sony probably thinks that since developers are restricted to a small community, and they are the ones who chooses who is allowed to develop any app, that the legal result might be different from the Apple result.

Previously, the only way to write software for sony was to request a special developer kit from Sony. They had total control over every single one of them. For all the other examples, the SDKs are all either free or require a small fee, with no other restrictions. The way the law is written, it could be illegal for anyone to write any software that runs on their OS that is not part of their closed circle. With the other systems, you can write an app and test it, the corporate control is over which apps are accepted for sale in their distribution chain.

'Enabling Pirates' is partly why he is the person Sony is going after, but that means absolutely nothing in the US courts and probably only a little to them. They are going after him because previously they had 100% control over the entire supply chain over not just the systems, but the PS3 games as well. Now, people can develop without paying their royalties to Sony. While you may think the pirates are what is going to hurt sony so much, just look at the 360. It's doing fine financially with a buttload of pirates on thier system. Sony just seems butthurt over losing complete control.