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Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
 

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Music industry revenue in 1999 in the US : 14.6 billion$

Music industry revenue in 2009 in the US : 6.3 billion$

that includes digital revenue.

You call that being in the same shape ?

 You really should do some research before making things up...

Here are my sources by the way : http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/02/news/companies/napster_music_industry/


Er, try 1989.  The 1990's were a music buisness bubble... ask basically any music historian.  It had shit to due with piracy.

You know what happened in the 1990's?  People had to rebuy their shit from Cassette to CD.

You didn't have to do that with CD to MP3, you could just rip your CD.

http://www.speec.mobi/archive/uncategorized/the-great-music-bubble-of-the-1990s/

The numbers I gave are 1999, by then CD had been out for around 15 years. You really think that by then many people were still buying their old shit ?

Er, also come to think of it.... 1999?  That was one of the big years of Napster.  You are talking about when piracy was at it's strongest... and citing it as one of the "good old days".  Piracy was stronger then.


Napster came out in June 1999. It's big year was actually 2000 ( end of 2000, beginning of 2001).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Napster_Unique_Users.svg

It didn't have much an impact in 1999...

Eh, regardless.   Music pirates have been shown consistantly to buy more music.

Meanwhile... CD prices have rapidly gone down due to them losing a price fixing lawsuit

and 15 other factors in the 1990's that caused a bubble.

In otherwords, your completely wrong.

Ah ah can't argue your way with facts so just gonna try to bully it ?

Music revenue were twice as big before pirates started appear but still you're clinging to that crazy idea that they had no effect on the decline of revenue...

You know  that it only takes 30 seconds to research your argument instead of bringing random things that turn out to be false.

In other words we're going to cut your income by 50% over the next 10 years but don't worry, you were in a bubble so no big deal........

"Before piracy appeared"... when was that exactly?   Music "piracy" has existed since blank cassettes.

Aside from which, do you know what a bubble is?

Without piracy the bubble would of shrunk income to 50% or less anyway.

You know, pricefixing lawsuit lost?  MP3's allowing people to buy singles?

Actual sales are up, revenue is down.

You may as well blame the housing bubble burst on people squatting in abandoned buildings.

People aren't buying less. 

They are buying smarter and cheaper.

 

Of course, we've gone off the topic of the government reports in which you had no answer.

Because you essentially know your wrong but don't want to admit it. 

Either publically or to yourself, I can't say which.

Personally, I'm going to stick with prevailing scientific theory. 

You can keep ignoring it at your leisure, however i'm going to start ignoring you, since your waaay to invested in this and don't want an actual resonable discussion, and instead wish to rant, cling to silly disproven arguements with questionable correlation inoring actual proven confounding variables and ignoring the statistics as provided.

Your worse than a poltician with your attempts at spin.