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AussieGecko said:
thismeintiel said:

Again, you seem to be blinded by either your dislike of Blu-ray and/or your love of HD-DVD.  Consumers made the choice, not Sony.  Just like consumers chose VHS over Sony's Betamax, it's the same for all format wars.  It doesn't matter what Sony chose to put out there in the market, without consumer support it would have failed.  Like I said, no one had to buy its players or the PS3.  They could have bought HD-DVD players and the 360.  Yes, some movie studios supported Blu-ray, but HD-DVD had its supporters, too (MS, Intel, Warner, Universal, Paramount).  And if Blu-ray had failed, its supporters would have moved over to HD-DVD.  However, consumers ultimately backed Blu-ray over HD-DVD.  So, really, it's one of those situations where you just need to get used to it.


Betamax wanted to fight, HD-DVD didnt near the middle of the war, they wanted to combine the discs which would have been superior to both.

http://forums.soundandvisionmag.com/showthread.php?535778-More-Talk-about-Blu-Ray-HD-DVD-Merge-Article

I even brought a link for proof. Sony said no, thus Sony killed HD-DVD why argue the point?

If Ms really supported HD-DVD they would have put it in the 360 it would have been the preferred format for the Americas most likely and then we wouldnt even have this topic... it might even be vice versa. 

All your article proves is that they were both in talks to make a single format BEFORE either were launched (that report was from early 2005).  Discussions obviously fell through.  Where did it say it was because of Sony?  They both probably had things they wanted to do for the single format the other disagreed on, so it was both of their faults there wasn't a single format.  And its also obvious Toshiba still wanted to fight, since according to that same article, "Toshiba, while admitting it is in talks with Sony and others on a unified format, said it has not changed its plan to launch HD DVD-based DVD players and notebook computers equipped with HD DVD drives in the fourth quarter of 2005."  If any thing, the discussions were probably just a stalling tactic by Toshiba in the hopes Sony would hold off on Blu-ray, while in the background still pushing their HD-DVD. 

And seriously, why can't some of you just get over the fact that consumers chose Blu-ray for whatever reason and it won?  You know, like everyone had to when their format of choice lost in the past.  And to try and paint Sony as some evil corporation, while Toshiba was angelic in their want for what was best for the consumer, just shows your blind bias.