ssj12 said:
qmoney88 said:
ssj12 said:
TX109 said:
ssj12 said:
qmoney88 said:
ssj12 said:
2. I remember a certain console starting selling at a lose at $599.99. For $599 you can build a decent PC. Just stick with AMD.
3. Other then the bad port, PC games normally aren't very glitchy at all. No worse then the best console game, but most of the time better.
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cmon man, can you really use that argument for number 2? While 599 can net you a fairly decent setup (and by decent I mean Barely) that doesnt negate the fact that now the same console is half that price and the games just keep getting better. In order to see an improvement in software purchased for a pc, you must upgrade, something that developers do for you on consoles. Tell me one game you can play on a $599 rig thats going to look as good as kz3, uc2 etc. Now tell me one game that you can play on a $299 rig that can play any new major release period. Fact is console gaming is much more convenient and less expensive for those who only purchase a handful of titles througout ownership of said console. I happen to be fortunate enough to own a good gaming pc, 360, and ps3, but not everyone does and a $299 price tag is much more alluring then say a $1200 pc that allows you to play games with negligible amounts of increased fidelity.
Furthermore, most people do not want to spend the time to learn the ins and outs of pc care and how to upgrade without screwing everything up. Most times, there is much tweaking and adjusting settings that needs to be done in order to fully enjoy everything a game has to offer, not to mention picking up an hd monitor and the right accessories. While the same could be said for consoles needing hdtv's, nowadays most individuals who own these systems already own an hdtv of some sort since they are fairly cheap compared to a few years ago and use them for other means in addition to their console(s). Console gaming is the number one form of entertainment for one reason: accessbility.
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1. a $1200 is far from ever needed and is for enthusiasts like me only. $400 - $600 for a PC is enough to run anything for the next 2 - 4 years without worrying about the latest graphics as you will be able to run Crysis 2 on very high with a $600 PC. And a $300 PC, Crysis 1 easily on high which is better looking then KZ3 and UC2.
2. Everything but the processor and HDD are plug-in play. Even GPUs are... only high-end GPUs require additional power sources beyond what the PCIe x16 slot gives. And even then its a basic setup. Plus games now scan your system and auto-adjust the settings. Most of the time they autoset to low, but that's a good thing for people who don't want to mess with settings.
3. 1080p HDTVs still are not cheap, especially 3DTVs which is the new norm for PS3 games. For the cost of a good 3DTV console games accessories, you will easily dwarf the cost of my rig and purchase two more monitors with Nvidia's 3D vision glasses... and my rig is an enthusiast PC.
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@bolded: I would honestly like to know where these numbers come from. everywhere i go for an estimate on a gaming PC tells me about $900-$1500, and that is a relatively low set-up according to them. i mean hell, my $1200 PC, which was bought brand new a year ago, has trouble running Oblivion let-alone Crysis on high.
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http://www.geekcodex.com/?p=312
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Thats cute and all, but you still need an hd monitor, operating system, accessories and the KNOW HOW to get this done. Post something relevant.
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"HD" monitor? You do know HD is a marketing jargon right? Anyone who has a 12 year old CRT monitor which should happen to have a resolution above 720p easily or buy one for $99 or hook it up to a TV as most rooms now a days have TVs with PC inputs..
OS.. ok either A. use the OS installer off an old PC and steal the CD key like I do half the time, or B. get the OEM disc which is $129 for W7Pro.
And building a PC is like playing with LEGOs, you'd be a idiot if you couldn't figure it out since the manual for the motherboard tells you everything you need to so step-by-step.
Quit trying to argue. I've been using PCs since I was 3, and gaming since I was 5 with Wolfenstein 3D and my Atari, and building PCs for about 8 years now. I know what I'm talking about and it is completely obvious that your argument against PC gaming is a complete joke. Quit embarrassing yourself.
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ssj12, I apologize for turning this into a hostile argument, a bit of my jabs were childish and uncalled for and I admit that. Just a few counter arguments then about this and your previous posts. You say that you can get away with using a 12 year old crt, the same could be said for consoles if you dont mind standard definition. I mean, if youre going to try and max or play crysis on decent settings, if you dont have an led or lcd screen? Not that thats necessarily bad, I would just imagine that the technology available now at a decent price would be a bit more desirable. Hooking it up to your t.v. wouldve required a tv purchase to begin with, and since neither a console or pc can be played without one, would also have to be factored into the cost if you do that for consoles as well, otherwise I could say that I had an hdtv and bought a console, decided to hook it up to it. I also agree with your point about the ease of piecing together any rig, yet the majority of people are not like you and have difficulty putting together fake christmas trees, let alone a pc (heart attack inducing for most). Being as you have as much experience as you do and youre given hobby (or profession) I just imagined youd be a bit more open minded about this, were definitely in the minority when it comes to things like this. I do admit that I dont know everything there is to know about pc's or nearly as much as you do, but Ive done my research and know how most people operate these days, if it dont work out of the box then forget about it is their mentality. I have nothing against pc gaming, I quite enjoy it and am a bit of an enthusiast myself when it comes to upgrades and attempting to max out every game I can, when I can. Howerver, I also understand why console gamers prefer consoles, its more convenient for them.
The fact is consoles come out of the box ready to go besides some mandatory, automatically downloaded updates and a required profile creation, which each console does a decent job of holding your hand through the process. When building your own pc, you need to research parts, which parts are compatible together, and then how to piece it all together without screwing things up. I had to go through this myself as does anyone, I didnt start gaming on a pc but grew to love it and all of its intricacies. I do apologize again, sometimes when I drink and blog I tend to let my emotions show a bit more than I intended.
