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chocoloco on 12 February 2011
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AussieGecko said:
chocoloco said:
twesterm said:


Right, but you're saying something is only new if it has Kinect AND can still be played with a controller.  That implies that you or something would like to play whatever it is with traditional controls which implies that traditionally controleld games can still be new...so your statement doesn't make sense.

  • Most of us are looking for something new
  • Kinect does not count as new unless it has both control sets
  • Therefore, a game with Kinect controls can be new
  • Therefore, a game without Kinect controls can be new
  • Therefore, any game cannot be new regardless of Kinect controls.

There is fault in my arguement if your looking at from the perspective of a person who actually wants to play kinect. I'm writing from a bias of someone who will not buy anything that works with kinect alone. I report my own biases and cannot predict what others will enjoy or appreciate. So with or without kinect it is new, some will be happy because it is new because they like or want kinect. The other group will look at it as Microsoft giving them nothing because they have no interest in kinect.

So if something works only with kinect it must interest me alone to make it worthwhile in my eyes. I am just hoping microsoft is able to please everyone by making kinect games that also function with the traditional 360 control system.

No you seem to be of the point of view that for example a square is a circle if all parameters are set that way.

You want your logic to work... the issue is that it doesnt matter if you dont want it 8million and growing have kinect and that is from a very short time, it will grow.

You are not letting Gears count for some reason. You are saying from the start... errr wouldnt all "timed" or "full" exclusives start with the 360. You are simply discounting games that don't work for your point.

You want to please everyone but the issue with your argument is that a lot of people are buying 360 purely for Kinect and for that basis they would have to count in this situation.

And you are saying MS published. A Ms published game went multiplat simply by changing the name of Ninja Gaiden and then adding Sigma.

Unless you own both systems you have nothing to add. I know Twesterm has both and more. This is because people who buy multiple systems probably buy the other systems because they want exclusive games not games they can already buy. I bought a PS3 first and a 360 2nd because it had a lot of games that were supposed exclusives that were really timed exclusives from the begining. It also has some exclusive I enjoy, but I don't want timed exclusives I want real exclusives and unless you prefer to support Microsoft (which is perfectly fine) than they are giving the multisystem owner nothing.

For one, the kinect userbase is currently in the minority for system owners, but  Microsoft has to put resources into making games for that crowd if they want to continue to satisfy and that crowd and I'm sure they will. You can't expect everybody to jump aboard the kinect gaming when they already payed money for a system they wanted with the control style they wanted.

I never forgot about gears, but unless you own both a PS3 and a 360 I dont need you to tell me I am wrong to choose to play my PS3 for most games and my 360 slightly secondary and mostly for exclusives. I have not bought move, but at least Sony's new add on is incorporated in the types of games they have been making since the beggining.

I am no 360 hater in factI have been playing my 360 more for at least 5 months for various reasons, but in 2011 Microsoft has shifted its focus in a direction and many other multi system owners don not like.

End rant before it becomes an essay.