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oniyide said:

@m2105  ok, let me stop you right there, I was just correcting you on how you said that Wii brought back the SNES days, thats crap pure and simple, the big sellers on WII are those exercise games and those dancing games, which have NO equivalent on the 16 bit consoles. oh sure your platformers 2d and otherwise do good, but those have always done well, especially on Ninty consoles. Most of the chicks i speak NEVER played video games, at all. And they all bought WIi to play WiiFIt or Sports. and they get bored and never pick it up again or go play Bejewled on whatever smart phone they have.

But I give Ninty credit for WiiFIt that is an ingenious product, but lets keep it real here WIIFit is not a substitute for actually getting one's ass outside or to the gym and doing a real workout. WiiFit is just another exercise bike or whatever hot new "easy to get in shape crap" companies love to push on poor people who dont know better. Just because it sells doesnt mean it works, (FYI i actually did try it at an Ex's one time and it is a well made product, but anyone who actually believes it will get them in shape, I have some ocean front property to sell them)

I dont know how your getting this whole "mindset" I didnt say anything of the kind

 

It did get former gamers back, you're talking about 2D platformers? Nintendo didn't make a 2D Mario platform game for over 18 years. There is a reason why New Super Mario Bros. Wii sold more copies than Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2 combined. It's a return to old school gaming, something that has been missing for a long time.

It's about time that developers pulled their head out of their behind and made what people want, not what they think they should want, because they (the developers) like it.

Why do those dancing games and Wii Sport resort sell? What is it they have in common with the old games? Fun and appeal to everyone. The console becomes part of the living room experience, rather than being shoved in the kids room.

 

The Wii Sports and Wiifit games, were necassary. You can't make a console like the Wii and not offer anything that will interest the consumers. It marketed for families and I'll admit that Nintendo started a bit late to make games in style of the old school games, but I don't think they had much of a choice. Nintendo didin't have the deep pockets like Sony and Microsoft at that time and took a "risk". Now that they're finally got their shield up and raked in the dough they can start making games similar to the old school games (though their own worst enemy now, seems to be themselves, otherwise New Super Mario Bros. Wii would've been out at a much earlier date instead of Super Mario Galaxy).

 

About Wii Fit: it's not about a substitute, it's about motivation, if Wii fit can motivate someone to actually start excersising, then it's more than likely they will be incited to become more healthy and start doing more excersises.

 

About women and girls:  then I guess the saying is true, people are different. I can't think of a woman who hasn't gamed in their lifetime other than my mother's family (sisters and mother) or my fathers sisters. And if you're from the U.S. then I'm surprised you don't know any former female gamers either, since at their peak, Nintendo had a NES in roughly every third home in the states.

 

About mindset: I often brush people over with the same comb, it's a bad habbit. But I'm just tired of the hate Nintendo gets when they actually breathed new life in a industry that was in decay.