bmmb1 said:
Badassbab said:
bmmb1 said:
Badassbab said:
bmmb1 said:
Badassbab said:
Oh no! The Egyptians might take control of their own future rather than be lackeys of the US. Shock horror, they are going to become independant like Iran. Can't have that. They must remain subserviant to the Western Elite interests so let's get our secret services involved, work with the elitist minority of the country and destroy the burgeoning democratic movement like has been done (mostly) successfully for the last few decades in the region and around the world.
Democracy only if it's in our interets right?
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"independant like Iran" - I stopped reading at that point.
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Like I care. You just want countries to remain subservient to US power. When I said independant I meant of the US orbit. Of course that couldn't possibly enter your psyche fed on a diet of Corporate media with narrowrily defined interests and debate which works on the assumption the US rules the world.
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Haha you should very much care. You are so blind in your hate of the US that you think anything that is independent of that is good. I guess then you think all psychopaths should be in the streets as well and independent? No? Actually contrary to my profile I am not from the US (I put US at the time because I have a US Wii), nor have I been successfully brainwashed by anything or anybody, all my conclusions have been based on listenting to many different points of view. I believe in live and let live, and that is where my problem with Iran comes from - they don't. Iran's rulers believe in and practice the Jihad, and sooner or later their "independence" will bite you,me and everybody else in the ass (unless you subscribe to their way of life).
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Typical argument to make. If one welcomes challange to a narrow elite sector of the US then mudslinging is brought into the equation and it's called hatred of the US. I do hate oppression and elitism in all forms whether Iran or the US. And do I look like I'm equating the popular grass roots struggle in Egypt with pyschopaths? No that's you. Because in your racist world view Arabs are all crazy pychopaths who need to be controlled.
And are you seriously blaming Iran as the only country that oppresses it's people (and presumably other people though it's not clear who). When did your hatred of Iran start? After the major propaganda effort by the corporate media over the last few years (once Iraq was destroyed) to demonise it? You've just fallen into that basic trap again. Do you have any idea of the power structure of the world? Because if you did you wouldn't be making laugable statements such as a jihadist Iran biting us in the ass. PMSL. And I don't see Iran invading and occupying other countires. In fact they haven't attacked another in country for centuries. If anything they are the ones under threat. Massive threat.
You need to get off your imperialist high horse and realise you have no right to tell people in other countries what to do with their resources and how to run their own internal and external affairs. Reading and listening to a wide range of viewpoints yeah right.
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"I do hate oppression and elitism in all forms whether Iran or the US" - no you obviously don't hate Iran, reading what you wrote further on you are either totally brainwashed, very innocent, or one way or the other in their allegiance. And please don't put words in my mouth, I didn't equate the protesters in Egypt with psychopaths, I equate the Iranian regime with psychopaths. You must be right, Iran is the one under a massive threat and is keeping to itself - I guess organizations like hezbollah are just grassroots movement with no connection to Iran... We'll have to agree to utterly, completely disagree.
"Reading and listening to a wide range of viewpoints yeah right." - of course I couldn't have done that, because anyone who would listen to a lot of different viewpoints would of course arrive to your way of viewing things, right.
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No I don't hate Iran, I hate oppression whatever the country. I don't hate a whole nation like you do, just the elites within any given country that oppresses it's people including the theocratic rulers of Iran. Furthermore I didn't bring Iran to this thread it was you because you've been sucked in by the blatent anti Iranian propaganda over the past few years and you couldn't help but mention it. It's all well and good calling the rulers of Iran pychopaths without a shred of evidence to back up your claims (even if they are of a unsavioury character) but there are countries in this world that have actually killed millions of people over the last few decades. Now that is what I call psychotic.
And Hezbollah is a grassroots movement. Yeah it get's funding from Iran and Syria and has carried out some terrorist atrocities but it's crimes pales in comparison to other actors in the region which I'm sure you will happily overlook because if we do it, it's not a crime, if someone else does it then it's a crime. And Iran is the one under massive threat. This is standard elementary knowledge. How you do not know this speakes volume of the type of information your in reciept of.
