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Um, alot of people didn't believe me, and the few games at launh (kinect sports? Joyride? etc) were at least some well made games which lead people to think the wave of crappy made games was avoided. They were party games, but you seem to think I equate party with crap, I don't. Carnival Games was alot of fun.. then  came the sequel and clones that were crap. The few games at launch weren't even what I was talking about because they were quality games, it's when brands (like new carnival games, imagine, etc) and companies like destineer or conspiracy start jumping in next holiday season to shove out stuff as fast as possible with no quality behind them.

When I said nobody believed me, it's because when I brought it up people seemed to think that Kinect would never get anymore party games or clones at all. Many seemed to lash out and say it would only grow more "hardcorea" and become a tool for ways to make shooter games or cut em up games as if they were the only games that were good.  You got what I was saying a bit skewed, I never said those games were the only good games that existed.