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jphuff on 07 January 2008
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LordTheNightKnight said:
windbane said:

I'm not going to quote anyone since there were several people mentioning Sony's failed formats, and I've pointed this out plenty of times before: Sony was a huge part of the CD format and a big part of the DVD format. In the case of the DVD, they gave up their own format to contribute their tech for DVD. As for betamax, it was technically better than VHS but didn't record long enough early on for recording sports, watching porn, etc.

Sony doesn't always fail, and blu-ray isn't just Sony's format. The hatred is unecessary.


How is the hatred for anything about gaming necessary (aside from maybe jack tompson )?

The hatred for HD-DVD doesn't make sense, if you think about it.


I was going to post much the same thing that windbane said, only got beat to it.  It's exactly right.  NEITHER of these formats is solely one company.  Yes, Toshiba had the majority of HD-DVD and Sony the majority of BD, but that's it.  It's not like either of these formats were only ONE company trying to "force" the market to use their standard.

You are so right about the HD-DVD hate regarding Microsoft as well.  SOME people had this idea of hanging HD-DVD around Microsoft's neck in totality and since they obviously hated MS, they extended that hate to HD-DVD.  Stupid.  MS was only one of quite a few companies on the HD-DVD association.  Just like Sony has a lot of other companies in the Blu-Ray association.

And as regards the failed formats of the past, again I say....since when has technical innovation and trying new ideas in the marketplace been a bad thing?  We wouldn't have MP3 players and a lot of other devices if companies didn't put new tech out there and try to market it.  A big example of this would be the PC.  IBM itself said there was no market for PC's in the home back in the day.  What if Apple and all the other companies had just listened to that?

In the end, new technologies and especially competition among emerging technologies and formats is GOOD for the marketplace and the consumer.  Yes, some early adopters end up getting burned at times, but that's the price you pay for being on the "bleeding edge" of technology (they call it that for a reason!).  Without the competition between HD-DVD and BD for example, it's absolutely right that we wouldn't see the players and movies as cheap as they are now and as fast as they've gone down.  Remember DVD?  That's right!  How long did it take DVD's to get down to $30, $20 or less in price and the players to hit sub $300?  A lot longer than we've seen with HD.  Why?  There was no competition!  People just need to grow up and see beyond what they simply WANT to see.  Hell, I saw people posting for and against HD-DVD and BD just because Apple was on the BD board and MS on HD-DVD side.  They were for and against formats as an extention of the whole stupid "Apple rules" and "Windows rules" debate.  How silly can you get?