Sony's latest attack on customer freedom

[dharh]

Squilliam said:

dharh said:

I would blame both, especially if the hackers dumped the mean to do the hack and the info they got. Which is what is going on here when any of the systems get hacked.

SONY is still culpible for having suck security, but so is MS and nintendo. 

SONY screwed up, the hackers are still assholes.

Your second paragraph is completely right. Also the fact that people do not have the right to distribute the methods of hacking said systems.

How does Microsoft's security or claimed lack thereof negatively effect users in a comparable way? The same applies to Nintendo since the majority of the effects are localised to particular Wii's for homebrew or piracy. You can't easily go out and buy an Xbox 360 which is hackable to nearly the same extent because it is restricted to specific older models which haven't been updated. You can buy any PS3 you want and gain the same priveledge Sony has, you can even write software which will work on any PS3 ever created. So this is definately not comparable.

When you say Sony screwed up, you have it partially wrong. They screwed up in proportion to the size of the titans in SOTC. Getting the most important 100 lines of security code wrong and having other security assumptions compound the problem further is extremely problematic. The hackers being assholes doesn't really matter because what is done is done. What you think of what they did doesn't really matter. For better or worse the PS3 is becoming an open system which comes with benefits and problems. PC = PS3 in many respects now.

Since the wii essentially has the weakest online presense, yeah sure the wii's hackability has little effect on the collective wii base other than the loss of revenue due to pirates.

X360 is about half and half but ultimately no different than the PS3. Online games are hackable, you can use bots, the online experience for these games can be unplayable due to those factors. No different than the PS3 atm. 

No arguments again for your second paragraph. i don't give a crap about quibling about 'how large sony screwed up'.