Democratic congresswoman shot in Arizona.

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WereKitten said:

Kasz216 said:

sapphi_snake said:

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And neither should owning a gun be a right. As I said, it's unnecessary in today's society.

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Furthermore.  Not wearing a seatbelt doesn't make driving a car anymore dangerous for anyone but you.

Still, not wearing a seatbelt you're statistically much more prone to serious injuries even in minor car accidents. In a country where healthcare is heavily socialized that means much higher financial costs for everybody, but even in the US it still means needlessly hogging time and personnel resources, e.g in an ER during the triage and first assistance phases, possibly causing damage or inconvenience to other harmed people.

No need to point out that it's a slippery slope ("then why shouldn't the government force you to eat better and live a more healthy lifestyle"), but the specific case sounds a little enough violation of personal freedom to me -what's the problem? wrinkled shirts?- that such a law enforcement makes sense if you don't live alone on an island.

As for the guns, are you really saying that the right to bear arms makes sense so that there can be a legal revolution? :)

As for the seat belt issue, here is my response, http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3874487

About guns.  The reasons to have a gun in the US include sport shooting, fun shooting, target practice, hunting, defending yourself, defending your property (including pets), defending your family, defending your friends, defending others.  This defense is of wild animals, crazed animals, foreign invaders, criminals, government workers in a revolution and so on.  Actually, there was a revolution in the US so...