sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
@Kasz216:
D) The fact that some people will make mistakes is in fact the "price of freedom." however the right to make mistakes is again a natural freedom that shouldn't be infringed.
People also have responsabilities when living in a society. And mistakes have consiquences, so it's better to have preventive lwas.
E) Heck, gun control laws? Cigarettes are way more costly to society to them, and are much more likely to effect people due to second hand smoke, including smokers children. Fast Food is more costly and deadly to society, including defenseless children who grow up on it. There are numerous things more dangerous and costly to society that we wouldn't think of banning. Heck the above are more dangerous then someones rights to stab themself in the foot! Which is in general the problem again with such freedom restricting laws.
The only purpose of a gun is to shoot people. The purpose of a cigarette isn't to cause lung cancer.
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D) Pretty much eveything we do soley for enjoyment is a mistake.
E) Er... no. The only purpose of guns isn't to shoot people.
For example, some people shoot guns for relaxation. Some use them to hunt for enjoyment or food or both.
What use do Cigarettes have again? Like, other then hopelessly addicting people, giving people cancer and costing national productivity because smokers miss more days of work on average? Oh, and poisoning people in the general area too?
The most common reason people give? Relaxation. It's pretty much the only answer given by smokers. (Like people who shoot guns.) Though the truth is... studies tend to show cigarretes don't relax you. It's all a placebo effect.
Well until you get addicted, and can't go too long without a fix.
Cigarrettes are actually a worse right then stabbing oneself in the foot. Stabbing yourself in the foot is much less addicting.
It's still a right.
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While some people do like shooting guns for relaxation, they do so in controlled environments (such as shooting ranges), where the chance of they harming someone are minimum. And gun owners who use guns for such a purpose are in the minority.
There's nothign wrong with owning a gun for protection, provide it:
1. You're sane (This one's very important).
2. You know how to use it.
3. Take all the necessary safety precocions (keep the gun unleaded, dismantled and in a protective case, outside the reach of other people, especially children; and certainly not carry it with you on the street).
Also, hunting should be outlawed. It's unecessary and barbaric. Animals don't exist for humans' sick enjoyment.
And I never said that stabbing yourself in the foot should be illegal, though you should definately be evaluated by a psychiatrist if you do that.
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Plenty of people shoot in their own homes. Outside that, it's still more useful then Cigarretes, which have literally zero benefits and kill more people per year through personal use.
I don't really disagree with 1 or 2. Except for the fact that it's very hard to define "sane." Hence why you usually use criminal record as a barrier.
As for 3.... hunting is actually one of the most humane way to get your meat.
Have you actually seen where the majority meat comes from? Check out any book or documentry about factory farming there isn't anything more inhumane then that.