Squilliam said:
Joelcool7 said:
Squilliam said:
Joelcool7 said:
Squilliam said:
Joel you have to note that Jobs also head up one of the biggest animated companies as well, I believe, Pixar. It isn't like he didn't do well outside of Apple when he was ousted.
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Never indicated he didn't do well. I was indicating that he made mistakes like every other exec while he was at Apple. Just look at the computer division and the Pipin and all the other products Jobs was behind at Apple. Sure the I-Pod , I-Phone and I-Pad have all been very successful but can you credit everything to just Jobs?
Apple has a very talented team and many execs who could probubly stear Apple almost as well as Jobs can. Its not like Jobs himself created the I-Phone , I-Pad or I-Pod, his team did. He probubly had
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Again Jobs is a great exec, as I pointed out much like Gates was to Microsoft and Iwata to Nintendo. But that does not mean Apple is doomed without him. Example Reggie is a great exec for Nintendo many would say he's one of the best, but NOA could survive without him. Just as Apple can survive without jobs. Jobs is definatly one of the most intelligent men on earth but their bound to be another good exec within Apple or within Apple's pay grade.
I don't think Apple is going anywhere regardless of what happens to Jobs, much like Pixar never went anywhere.
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So he took Apple from a record low to a record high. Not just any one executive could have done that.
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Again Jobs is a brilliant man a great CEO. Not any exec can do what he does. But recal that prior to the 12 year low and another CEO in charge of Apple Jobs was the head. Jobs was at Apple since the beginning being a co-founder and Apple was never as successful as it is today.
Also if you note my comparison I compared him to Iwata and Bill Gates both of which are really great Presidents and CEO's. I never belittled Jobs I just said Apple could probubly survive without him. Just like Microsoft is surviving without Gates and Nintendo without its past presidents and CEO's.