homer said:
toastboy44562 said:
homer said:
toastboy44562 said:
homer said:
toastboy44562 said:
bush made so many mistakes. the BEST that any president can do is to cut losses. mabye in 30 years we'll recover back into the clinton days
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What do you have against Bush? What did he do that warrants such dislike towards him? What did Clinton do right? Didn't he cheat on his wife? That doesn't seem very good,
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Bush put us in debt. Clinton had us in a surplus. Bush got innocent americans/Iraqians killed in iraq for no reason. Bus allowed so many of quality american jobs go overseas into places like china where they make shitty goods. And who gives a shit if clinton cheated on his wife? doesnt make clinton a bad president. Conservatives just use that on clinton to make him look bad because clinton did such a great job (Yes I know clinton didn't have that many challenges but still, he was great). sorry if it's hard to reed i need to put in contacts
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We had debt in Clinton's presidency, didn't we? If I am not mistaken, he added debt to the deficit, just not as much as Bush. So, the president has the ability to declare war, without congress's consent? I did not know that. It was Bush's fault that China managed to get many American jobs? I just thought we could not compete with China considering they can manage to pay their workers less, but I guess I am mistaken, or am I? If he cheated on his wife, I will think a lot less of him. Also, didn't he commit purgury(lying in court if I am not mistaken)? Why did he lie? Also, didn't he leave Somalia in a mess after a quick occupation/invasion? Clinton killed many innocent somalians and americans? Didn't he also give nuclear material to North Korea, or am I mistaken? Does that seem like a wise idea, because it didn't seem to wise to me.
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Im sure he added debt in the beginning, but we were on the track to make some serious money. Bush recommended to go to iraq, at the a lot of the congress was his buddies. So he could basically do whatever he wanted within reason. He could have controlled how many jobs went overseas by trying to enforce different tarifs and being more liberal and trying to get other countries to trade with us more. I dont know about the rest personally you could be right.
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Overall during his presidency, he did add to the deficit though, or am I mistaken? Clinton took us to Somalia, and left abruptly throwing that country into chaos, if I am not mistaken. Why doesn't Obama do the things you speak of? Then we could stop the loss of more jobs, and perhaps court other former American factories to come back.
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yes but he inherited a deficit and turned it into a surplus. clinton's overall debt was very small, bush's debt was insane, obama's debt might become worse. clinton sent tons of jobs overseas too, he passed NAFTA, working conditions got worse. It was a strong economy at the time though. He does get too much credit, the economy probably would have been great anyway. Basically clinton was not as bad as other presidents in recent times, i don't think he was great by any means. Presidents still have to bow their heads to corporations and it's hard to blame them, they wouldn't be where they are without doing that.
