voty2000 said:
PhoenixKing said:
voty2000 said:
PhoenixKing said:
voty2000 said:
This is the response I expected from you. Rambling on and on with no real information. So, if China(hypothetical) decides to take over the earth, should we let them, because if we fight back bad things will happen? This is what happens when you don't think about the crap you a spewing. It makes no sense.
The allied forces attacking Germany had to happen. You contradicted yourself pretty severely. You say that Nazi's had no chance of taking over the world. Why is that? Because, GASP, people fought back. If nobody fought back you would have never been born.
With your ideals, I could get about 100 guys together and conquer the earth because war is murder so we shouldn't fight back. Nobody fights back and kills me, we take over the world. Glad people don't think like you.
As for honorable death, if you let your wife die and you could have saved her, you are a pathetic existence of a man. I would rather die saving my loved ones than living the life of a coward and being treated as such. A mourning wife is much better than a dead one. Why can't you see that? Because you don't think, you read some crap and believed.
You tell me I'm living a childhood fantasy. Your most likely 17 or 18 so your still a child with distorted views of the world. I guarantee that 5 years from now if you read this post again, you'll realize how wrong you are. Know how I know this? I used to be your age and said stupid stuff. You'll grow smarter and wiser, and it's great.
I realize horrible things happen in wars and wish they wouldn't, but they are isolated incidents that aren't the norm, and these people get punished when they are caught. Just because bad stuff happens, that doesn't mean you shouldn't fight. The internet allows smut videos of people being murdered to be viewed by all, so by your logic, we should ban the internet. Sounds ridiculous.
Now see I calmly I replied and expressed my viewpoints without looking like rabbling lunatic? That's wisdom baby.
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You're just using strawman and condescending insults. That's all you do. You haven't made any specific credible reasons on why I'm wrong. You just say I am.
They aren't isolated incidents, never have been, and you haven't provided any factual basis for any of your arguments. Then you insult me over a hypothetical situation about a dead wife, of which I gave you a actual historic event that happened to an American president as a counter argument.
You're not arguing anything. You just insult. It's ridiculous. I'll stop taking you seriously as that was clearly my mistake.
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Where are your facts? You said you read a book and wathced some films. That's a fact? You have not explained anything and you have proven nothing. You spouted off random crap like I'm supposed to simply believe it. You complain about me insulting you but your first line in your first reply was an insult at me. Wow, dish it bet can't take it. Yes I am be condescending because you keep stating stuff like it's fact without backing anything up. Read your posts and show me the facts. Please, show me these facts I need to disprove.
It's clearly evident that your not afraid of war, your afraid of death.
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Random crap? You obviously never even studied the history of Cambodia if you think that's all random crap.
Movie: The Killing Fields.
Books: A problem from Hell by Samantha Power, War is a Force which gives us meaning by Chris Hedges, among many journals and news articles I've also read about the subjects.
Anyone who studied Cambodia would know without doubt that the information I was telling you was accurate. It's not me who argues from ignorance and insults others character.
Again, you have no credible sources, never bothered to provide any, and have only ever insulted me as a person instead of actually providing a counter argument. I'm not taking you seriously anymore, you don't deserve that kind of respect because of your actions.
Perhaps I seem riled-up, but it's justified, I'm no longer speaking to people who essentially take things 'in one ear and out the other'.
Resume insulting me, if you wish. Good day.
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Pay attention to what I'm saying. Shitty stuff happens during the war that's all you've shown. Not all wars are justifiable and some are just plain wrong. But just because crappy stuff happens does not mean that all war is evil. If a country tries to rise up and overthrow the world, they must be brought down. You;re trying to put words in my mouth by saying I don't think bad stuff happens. But with all the crap that happened in the American Revolution, WW I and WW II, those were not evil on our part. THe enemy was evil and had to be stopped. You can't argue against that.
Again, I'm not saying that evil does not exist in war, even on the part of the good guys, but the small amount of crap that happens does not mean the entire army of the good guys is wrong. I'm not going into small skirmishes like columbia because I can't say for certain what should have happened. What I will say is the WW I and WW II had to happen to stop Germany. I know it's pointless to discuss somehting like this with you because you will not listen to reason, but maybe it will make you stop and think that you don't know all and your views are not the end all.
Last words, again, five years from now if you see this post, you'll realize how off some of the things your saying are. I know from experience. Good day random internet fanatic, I won't even look at the response so don't bother.
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Good grief, you don't understand anything.
There is no 'good' guy in war. There is only murder.
You want to assume I'm ignorant? Fine. Don't care. It just means I won't take you seriously.
Here's something you probably never thought of; my focal reason for believing war is evil.
WW1: The war to defend Democracy and to end all wars - argued by President Wilson.
Result: It ended-up giving rise to Fascist dictatorships in Italy, in Portugal, and of course, Germany.
WW2: The war to preserve Democracy from Tyranny
Result: a 50 year Cold War with the USSR.
End of the Cold War: Believed to end all world strife and make it all boring.
Result: Ethnic Cleansing (a.k.a. Genocide) in Rwanda, Kosovo, Cambodia, Abkhazia, and other areas.
Do you really expect anyone to believe war is a good thing considering all that crap?
Yes, genocide is horrible but most people neglect the fact that rising ethnic tensions are unavoidable and unpreventable. Getting involved in another melting pot will lead to WW3.
