nightsurge said:
PhoenixKing said:
nightsurge said:
PhoenixKing said:
nightsurge said:
PhoenixKing said:
mrstickball said:
Its a requirement to register, regardless.
I wouldn't worry about getting drafted. Unlikely to happen.
Besides, why are you so worried about joining the military? Too worried you may have to defend America?
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There is no honor in death. I don't believe in any of this patriotic 'defending America' BS. Iraq wasn't for defending America, the military ended-up raping 13 year old girls in torture cells within that country (Look-up Abu Graib), and these actions were ordered under Defense Secrutary Rumsfeld. The more you know, huh?
Not only that, but I've been reading books about war and genocide for college and some of the material absolutely disgusts me. Rape motels, accidentally bombing innocent villages, and accidentally shooting children that are hiding in fear.
I never want to see war in my life. Sorry for being a Pacifist.
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Wow... more conspiracy theory stuff. Question everything you read/hear, not just the stuff you don't agree with. Just because you don't believe in the Iraq war doesn't mean all that bad stuff they publish about it is true and all the good stuff is false. Some of it may be true, some of it is probably blown way out of proportion, etc. People write stuff to sell copies and the more conflicting or terrible sounding the better it sells.
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It's not false when they're being brought on Federal charges on it by a Congressional Jury.
Try actually reading about this information yourself before saying its all BS and that 'we're doing good'.
If you really think what I said is the ramblings of a conspiracy theorist then I'm sorry to say that you're living in a naive world view of things. This has all been confirmed information since 2007.
Check on this information yourself, look at the leaked pictures, watch the wikileaks video of American military personnel running over someone they just killed and laughing about it. This is very real, very incriminating, and horribly immoral.
I want no part in the military, any military, or anything remotely related to real life warfare. The events that happen are just too sick and horrible.
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Apparently everything I just said went over your head. Oh well.
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You don't provide a shred of credibility in anything you say. You have nothing, no real valuable information about war, to explain your argument like I do. I've read it, I've watched it, and I've been taught of its horrible effects.
I don't think you understand war at all. If you support it so much then by all means, join the military.
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Again, you are drawing some weird conclusions considering I gave no such implications. Just take my advice. You keep saying how you "read about it and watched it" and all I said is that you need to question EVERYTHING you see or hear, not just the stuff you don't like. Nothing is as clear cut as it is presented to you and sometimes it is downright false or blown out of proportion. If you really think the news, information from anti-war articles, etc. are all truthful pieces then I pity you and your ability to come up with your own conclusions on things.
From your reactions to everything in this thread it is clear you are not yet mature enough to handle such advanced topics. Give it some time, read information from both sides, not just the one side, do your own thinking about something rather than just eating up whatever others present to you.
Notice in this entire thing I have not mentioned anything about my views on wars and yet you keep assuming I support them. Relax, read thoroughly, question everything, think diligently and deliberately, and decide for yourself.
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Seriously. The people who claim one side is lying/decieving everyone and then proceed to blindly accept everything presented to them by the other side completely mystify me. You've got reason enough to recognize that what others tell you isn't necessarily the truth, but then proceed to use that insight selectively.
For everyone who is a complete pacifist, I suggest you take it to a local level.
Ideally, I'm not a fan of war. Ideally, the world's history wouldn't have any of it. Ideally, I'm also not a fan of violence. Ideally, there wouldn't be any needed in the world. However, if some guy were to try to rape my wife/girlfriend/etc., I'd do whatever it took to protect them. That'd probably involve some violence (and a lot of it). But, as mrstickball (or maybe Rocketpig?) has pointed out, it's a situation where you're forced to choose the lesser of two evils. The fact that violence and war are prevalent in our world and its history is a very sad thing. However, we hold no power over others; we can only control the decisions we make in response to them. If your two options are let everything you know and love be destroyed or fight, can you really honestly say the best option is the former? No, every war does not have such high stakes. No, every war should not be endorsed. But sometimes, a war really is the lesser of two evils.
