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fps_d0minat0r said:
Killiana1a said:

From my own experience with the systems, I would say the Move is a much better piece of hardware than the controls for the Wii. That being said, Sony is failing to put the Move to use in going after the Blue Ocean whom Wii Sports, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Wii Sports Resort and Wii Fit have accounted for more than 48 million in software sales in 2010 alone, eventhough neither of them was released in 2010.

Source: http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/83386/top-selling-games-of-2010-multi-wii-ps3-psp-ds-x360/

My fear is that Sony has bought into the "core" wholesale and it will be the undoing of the Move. If you take a look at the Move's lineup of games, a lot of the games seem to cater to the core. The problem with this is, the core will not make exclusives 20 plus million sellers like Wii Sports and Wii Fit.

Hell for Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops to sell 15 to 20 million, they needed to be multiplatform. This in of itself speaks volumes on how unreliable the core is as a customer base.

I thought we would have learned from the failures of Atari and Sega on why console companies should never cater to the core at the expense of the family. Looks like Sony is in for a rude reminder with the Move.

As for games better fitting each platform, Kinect has the edge here. Imagine a Kinect Fit requiring no control in one's hands and along the lines of Wii fit. Easily a 20 million seller and overshadowing any Call of Duty game so much that people forget it even exists, just like many "core" gamers forget that Wii Sports was the 2nd best selling game of 2010 eventhough it was released in 2006. Same with Wii Fit selling 8.87 million in 2010 more than 2 years after it's release.

you said it yourself, wii is dominating the casual market, why would sony put their fanbase at risk trying to make games which people who bought the ps3 wont play?

as microsoft leaves the hardcore and focuses on kinect, sony will get a bigger chunk of the hardcore market so just staying put will be good enough for them.

and wii games selling more has got to do with its larger userbase and much better marketing, so its not completely down to the type of games even though the casual market is larger.

Good way of looking at it, yet I don't the FPS support base who has made the 360 the shooter console of this generation is going to abandon Microsoft wholesale come August 2011. It would take a crappy Call of Duty 2k11 for that to happen, among other things you mentioned.

I would quibble with the Wii having better marketing. I can faintly recall the New Super Mario Bros. Wii ads, while the Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops ads were everywhere all the time. I would chalk up a lot of Wii software sales due solely to nostalgia from working adults who grew up on the NES and SNES who want a easy to play, hard to master game not requiring a lot of their time.

As for the "core" market, I don't think any console company is going to give an inch of their "core' away to another. Nintendo will not stand idly by and allow Sony to revive their platformers with Ratchet& Clank without a Mario game to answer it. Microsoft sure as heck won't allow their FPS support base to drift over to Sony without pressuring Bungie to create another FPS on the scale of Halo to reel them back in. Finally, Sony is sure as heck not going to allow Microsoft nor Nintendo to inch in on their JRPG,  God of War's, and/or Uncharted's territory without an appropriate counter title.

As for Move and Kinect, anything the Wii can do, the Move can do better with more mature content and better graphics aimed at a smaller, more niche audience. The Kinect is in a league of it's own in terms of being the ultimate gimmick (a novel way of doing something that has not been done before) to attract a group of customers who were not attracted to Microsoft before.