Democratic congresswoman shot in Arizona.

[Kasz216]

ManusJustus said:

Kasz216 said:

riiiiiight.

I believe the last "arguement" we had involved me posting many many historians and scients views about how Galieo was persecuted for attacking the pope and poor science and not his actual views, since scientificically his premise was actually demonstraitably wrong experiments wise until the development of stronger telescopes many many years later, and the fact that Copernicus theories were taught everywhere for about 40-50 years until his trial.  After which it was banned.  Probably due to the fact that his science actually was wrong.  His main proof that the earth revolves around the sun being that there is only one high tide. (When anyone could tell you there were two high tides, everywhere.)

And your response was basically "Nu-uh, this one line in his conviction says it was for teaching helicoentrism."  As if there has never been a case for someone being convicted for something for show when the reason for them being convicted was clearly something else and then left the thread in embaressment.

It's just an old and predictable patern.  The scary thing is, unlike Numonex... I'm pretty sure your trying to be serious with half this stuff.

Laughably stupid.

Galileo used scientific methods that were way ahead of his time (not to mention ahead of the Catholic Church).  Galileo was able to prove that the Earth rotated around the sun with many different experiements, most notably the phases of Venus.  Galileo's ideas conflicted with the primitive ideology of the Church at the time, and thus he was punished and not forgiven by the church until a short time ago.

Of course Galielo made mistakes, so did Einstein and Newton.  But Galileo's contributions and discoveries greatly advanced science, so much so that scientists such as Stephen Hawking credit him with starting modern science with his accurate natural laws and mathematical methods.  And any non-pro Medieval Catholic Church historian would say the same, even Pope John Paul II admitted errors in the Catholic Church scientific positions in the trial against Galileo.

Of course Kasz thinks that he is smarter than scientists like Hawking and knows more about Church history than Pope John Paul II, just as any ultimate fool would think.  But i don't get paid to educate stupid people, so I'll stop for now.  I wouldn't know how to act if you were any other way.

If Galielo was so ahead of his time, why was the Tychonic system mathematically and scientifically superior until the development of stronger telescopes?

Which, you know, we covered in the old thread.  If you want to revived you failed and disproven arguement, go there and revive the thread rather then trying to throw this one off base.

Which do you think is less embarrising for the Catholic church to admit by the way?  That they persecuted someone for scientific beliefs, or that a Pope killed a friend out of pressure he would be hanged or otherwise assassanated by court rivales?

The actual reality of the Catholic Church during the middle ages as much more a political traditional court and less like an actual religious orginization is something the church doesn't want to cop to and is usually ignored in history.

Edit: Oh and additionally, apparently you think you know more on the Church then the current pope... and more about Galieo's work then Albert Einstein based on your silly reasonining.