g-value said:
Aiddon said:
g-value said:
Aiddon said:
Rob-Ot said:
Aiddon said:
8/10, the battle system was one of the most interesting ones I've ever seen and I found the characters were likable and interesting. The plot itself was kind of weird, though it was mostly told in a unique fashion similar to Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, or Wolf's Rain which is something I don't see in games a lot.
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Don't compare this pile of horse manure to Cowboy Bebop. This is even worse than when you said Xenosaga had a bad story.
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In the manner it's told it's completely valid. The story is told through a series of vignettes that have a loose background connection, just like Bebop and Champloo. And because of that it's kind of hard for me to judge it based solely on its plot because, like Bebop, it's not so much about PLOT as it is character and setting.
And I never said Xenosaga had a BAD story, it was mostly just a disappointment due to too many extraneous characters, an unlikable selfish brat for a heroine who does nothing for the storyline, a convoluted mess that was more concerned about being "deep" than coherent, and of course gobs upon gobs of overly long, overly flashy cut scenes. It was merely above average and when compared to its predecessor it is a complete waste of potential that makes me wonder what happened during development (well, except for Kato not being around obviously being the key ingredient to Xenogears' success). And this is the LAST I will talk about it
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Kato?!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF?!!!!!!!!! Kato played a small part in Xenogears' storyline. Takahashi and his wife made most of the storyline. Also, how in the world can you be a fan Xenogears and not the Xenosaga series because of long cutscenes when Xenogears cutscenes were just as long and abundent (I mean.....fu*king hell.....the entire second disc of Xenogears is just one big ass cutscene for the most part)? Also, Xenogears' storyline was FAR more complex then Xenosagas' storyline, so if you found Xenosaga to be too "convoluted" then you shouldn't have gotten Xenogears' storyline at all either. Xenosaga's story is not as good as Xenogears' storyline that for sure, but it' still beats 98% of other jrpg storylines out there for me. It was pretty fu*king amazing in my opinion. I kinda agree with you on Shion, though, that plot twist on her in Episode 3 was out of this world. So she did have some worth in the storyline.
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I have already said I am DONE talking about that series. Xenosaga was merely above average at best and due to Kato's absence for that series I attribute its failings to his lack of involvement.
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But Kato barely had any involvment at all with Xenogears. He has said this himself. A few scene here and there, but nothing other then that. You are dead wrong on that front.
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I'm not sure Kato's involvement would make the story "better". The one Square game where he wrote the whole story to was Chrono Cross and that game was...very debated to say the least. Some thought the story was complex and deep, others though it was convoluted and nonsensical. Some liked the battle system, others hated it. Some thought the characters were interesting, others though they were bland and underdeveloped. Literally the only aspects that are universally praised about the game are the soundtrack and art design
