@Farmageddon:
True, people rarelly ever learn. Transparency is an icky issue. Secrecy can be very important and helpfull , but it's also very easily abused, it's complicated.
Yes. Yes it if.
I was talking about a specific stituation that could arise: being forced into a battle field with your ass on the line without turning back.
I can understand this, hence why I'm against a mandatory draft.
Your country being invaded by an enemy that kills lots of civilians is a way this could happen. Sure, an individual always has the option of running away, but you'll usually not be able to evacuate an entire people. And some people do have that group instinct to defend their "fellows". Besides, the notion of territory and defending your home is pretty basic too.
This would also be a good situation. But still, we shouldn't forget that most military conflicts can be avoided in the first place.
Of course it is. As I said, I'd react to what you do much more than to why you do it, but arriving at the wrong conclusion doesn't change one's sacrifice. When measuring a guy's courage and inner strength the validity of his cause makes no difference, that's what I'm talking about, so yeah, a nazi can be a martyr.
I guess we disagree on this part. For me both the cause and the sacrifice are equally important.
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