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[Farmageddon]

sapphi_snake said:

@Farmageddon:

People rarely have enough information to make an informed decision. You know, transparency isn't common isn't exactly something practiced by Governments these days. And most wars end up losing support by the end (especially the majort wars of the past couple of decades) which shows that people learn nothing from the past.

True, people rarelly ever learn. Transparency is an icky issue. Secrecy can be very important and helpfull , but it's also very easily abused, it's complicated.

"Later" will probably be too late, and you can question things even before you end up going to war.

I was talking about a specific stituation that could arise: being forced into a battle field with your ass on the line without turning back.

Your country being invaded by an enemy that kills lots of civilians is a way this could happen. Sure, an individual always has the option of running away, but you'll usually not be able to evacuate an entire people. And some people do have that group instinct to defend their "fellows". Besides, the notion of territory and defending your home is pretty basic too.

 

There are some things which are clearly right, and some things which are clearly wrong. Not all causes are right, and those who are wrong can be demonstrated as such pretty easily, as their reasoning can be proven to be illogical. "Relativism" should not be taken to such extremes. What you beleive IS just as important as what you do about it.

Of course it is. As I said, I'd react to what you do much more than to why you do it, but arriving at the wrong conclusion doesn't change one's sacrifice. When measuring a guy's courage and inner strength the validity of his cause makes no difference, that's what I'm talking about, so yeah, a nazi can be a martyr.

Oh, btw, I just noticed, but you already lost this right anyway as you mentioned hitler earlier :P

Yes. Honestly I feel kinda guilty. It seems like we've hijacked this thread.

Well, it's shorter this time, so we're getting there.