What does Ps3 need?

[BenVTrigger]

CGI-Quality said:

BenVTrigger said:

The difference though that you guys are ignoring was that it wasn't Sony's IPs at all last gen that put the PS2 in first.  IT had nearly 100% of the third party support with the other two consoles receiving very few exclusives besides first party and the fact that the PS2 appeared to casuals with the huge diverse library.  The PS3 is seen as pretty much a hardcore only machine by the common consumer and thats a big problem when it comes to mass market sales.

I'm not debating it's position in the market, I'm speaking about why it's a relevant brand in the first place.

But if we head that route, regardless of who's IPs it was that kept the PlayStation brand on top, one thing cannot be argued, it was the approach of "give them something for everyone" that was responsible for such success. That's very much like the PS3 (except the PS3's situation started off too grim to even begin to expect a similar turnout to either the PS1 or PS2).

Yeah I hear you on that and my posts on here were more directed at the people that were saying Sony's IP's are enough to easily outsell the 360 with a price drop and maybe even the Wii.  To be honest they're not, not even close even though IMO Sony has some of the best IP's this gen.  At the moment Sony has nothing to counteract Kinect or Wii's huge first party titles like Mario and the Wii series.  Basically like you said earlier the PS3 will see healthy sales and be a successful system but IMO its guaranteed 3rd now, Kinect was the final deciding factor.