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Porcupine_I said:
theprof00 said:
Porcupine_I said:

you are no fatalist. a fatalist doesn't argue, he doesn't need to make excuses for what he does and  that is what you do!

you make lots of points, but they ultimately are just excuses for you to keep smoking. i wonder why you need those excuses? i'm not judging you, i'm just tired of people bringing up things that are completely unrealated to the subject at hand.

 

I'm not arguing for myself nor making excuses. I'm arguing against the idea of this topic and the responses to it.

I've quit smoking for an entire year, just to see if I could do it. For me, I simply enjoy smoking.

Perhaps you may see my points as simply excuses for smokers in general, but I strongly believe that people are a product of their environment for bad or for worse, people often do not have a choice in what they do.

The pourpose of this thread was the OP asked us to support him to quit smoking and i tried to help, so you telling me i should not have done that because...?

ah, you'll have to excuse me then, I was responding to other comments within the thread, moreso than the OP.

The only problem I have with helping someone quit is by telling them they won't die, or showing lungs, etc. In the mind of a smoker, those things don't work.

What works is actual help. You tell yourself, "I'm going to do this because I said I would do it, and my word means nothing otherwise", or "substitute smoking with pushups. Everytime you feel the urge to smoke, go to the bathroom and do 10 pushups", or "continue as normal, but don't inhale once you taste how disgusting the cigarettes are, you will easily kick the habit".

To me these "solutions" of showing a cancerous lung etc, are simply the solutions of people who have never smoked a day in their life.