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@Farmageddon:

Only beacause people are like that. The reason is not important, the fact is that you can't assume the world is something it isn't and project the consequecences of a decision (having no army in this cases) on that imaginary world.

But people can change if they want to. It's not some thing part of the natural order of things (like dying) that can't be changed.  I'm not dicouraged by what the world is now, when thinking of what the world should become.

Because things are not that simple, that's the point. You can't just forget about reality and think about your "Plan" on a vacuum or it'll never work, it'd be even worse than doing nothing.

It's not forgeting about reality, it's called doing something. You can't just do nothing and expect things to just magically change. Do you think that that the world just magically changes once in a while? Or is it that some people decide that they won't take things as they are anymore?

It would do better for the other side for whom it works to walk all over you. People prey on weakness. I know you don't like the idea of that, but it's how it is. If you want to change it, you have to first aknowlodge the problem. Just supposing it isn't there because "it doesn't need to be there" won't work at all.

There's a difference between a problem, and a solution. What I want to change is the solution, not deny that there is a problem.

It's not always that simple, the world isn't a perfect Karma zero sum for each individual.

True, but when you play with fire, you may (probably) get burned.

You're missing the point. The institution of the army, the fact that it existis, ins't the fact to hate, but the way it's sometimes used. And they kinda do loose their free will :P

Being totally honest, the way the army is used (regardless if for "good" or for "evil") should never be a solution to a conflcit. And all humans have free will, and there's no way to lose that. The fact that there are negative consiquences to dissobeying does not mean that you don't have free will (it's better to be a martyr than to sell your soul).

Soldiers don't always know precisely what's going on, but we're having this argument up there already.

It's sad that people go head first into things while being so uninformed.