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Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:

Except, they weren't decieved... and yes... people do often want war if not deceived.  There are tons of cases you can point to throught history.  Including Civil Wars by the way.

Though, yeah the US more or less did have a referendum when it came to deciding if the war should take place.  Not a legal one, but all polling showed the Iraq was was extremely favorable at the time.

Are you saying they weren't led to beleive false things about the reasoning for the war? Or that the Government proffited of 9/11 and the state people were after that event?

And polls are unreliable at measuring public opinion.

They aren't that reliable... and EVERY poll read the same.


Though no, they didn't deceive anyone.  To deceive someone is to willingly lie.  They didn't lie.  As far as they knew everything they said was right.

As for 9/11... what's your point?  Other then completely defeating your entire premise by pointing out the fact that people are in fact... emotional? 

You'll pretty much never get to a point without the need for an army because of this.

Well unless you go with the "Deadly Space Fascism via Giant Robot!" plan ala "The Day the Earth Stood Still."

Which... is just worse. 


A lot of people actually just like to fight too... and there will ALWAYS be someone who likes to boss people around.  With groups of people like this there will always be war.

I guess you're right about this... sadly.

Come to think of it, I can't help but remeber the beginning of Gone with the Wind with those stupid guys who were so anxious and happy that there was gonna be a war. It's sad that people can be so foolish, though I think it's also do to social conditioning (the way boys are raised, and how they're encouraged to be violent, and think of violence as a good thing).

Still, such behaviour makes me not care very much how these crazy war loving people end up. They could end up dead, or multilated or whatever, but I refuse to join their madness.



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