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sapphi_snake said:
HappySqurriel said:


Many individuals are for mandatory military service and are against the draft; they're two separate issues, and I think this question could confuse people. I know several people who are very much in favour of mandatory military service from all ends of the political spectrum because of what it can do for the citizens, and the country. Imagine you take people at the age of 16 or 18 and put them in a highly disciplined environment, give them a college education or teach them a trade, have them gain a couple of years experience, and then release them into the "real world" and I guarantee that they will be far more likely to be successful than the average individual is today.

What "experience"? Killing people? People can go to college or learn a trade on their own (and the majority do). No one should be made to endure the brainwashing and dehumaniza that goes on in the military.

Nothing good can come out of the nonsesne you propose, unless you want everybody to be mindless sheep.

First off, who said anything about mandatory military service for combat positions? Last I heard, there were 8 to 10 support staff in the military for every combat ready soldier; and I would (personally) argue that those combat positions should be entirely voluntary.

Beyond that, the vast majority of citizens in most western countries have been struggling because they haven't developed valued skills within the economy. Over 30% of people don't graduate high school, and only 20% to 25% of people graduate from college or University. While there are those that do seek out technical training, over half of the population hasn't developed skills that are valued within the economy.

With that said, the western democracies that have mandatory military service (Finland, Denmark, Norway, Switzerland, etc.) tend to be far better off in a lot of significant ways (compared to the United States) that can in some way be attributed to this mandatory military service. For example, the self confidence and discipline that often comes from Military training could be a significant factor to why people in these countries are less likely to abuse their social programs; which allows their social programs to be more generous without bankrupting the country.