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Icyedge said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Icyedge said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
RolStoppable said:
Icyedge said:
RolStoppable said:

I know that it is perfect, because if it wasn't, Nintendo wouldn't have been able to keep using it for 30 years and still get away with it.

It is the perfect story for the audience their aiming at.

Exactly: Gamers.


I kind of think icy isn't looking for a game but for an all-in-one entertainment pack. The problem is those won't be truly great at any of those things.

There are many involving RPGs out there. A couple of action games too. Im not looking for perfection either. Also, im all for multiplayer party games. NSMB is quite good in this regard.


Okay, forgot about RPGs there, although their stories tend to be okay on average, since the flow of playing doesn't really lead to a tight, coherent plot.

As a whole, I dont think thats true. In any case, I enjoy gameplay too, so average story is better then bad or no story. Basicaly, the point was, if some dont like Mario it isnt necessarily because theres no blood/violence. Beside, you can take note that I respect other gamer that do not care for a story or human like being interactions.


Well games are supposed to be gameplay first, and any story is optional, given that the definition of a game is playing it. Anyone who bashes a game for being all about gameplay and no story, that person is basically wrong, as they aren't disliking a game based on its own merits (people are entitled to their own opinions...), but on an assumption that a game, even a video game, is something other than it is (... people are not entitled to their own facts).

That's not to you, but anyone who assumes a game is required to have a story. It's no better than disliking Harry Potter for promoting satanism (something that is neither true about the books, nor even what satanism really is).

EDIT: Just remembered I need to add that I'm not counting genres that actually require stories, like RPGs and visual novels, since part of their definitions are stories that you can play, even if the degree of those varies a lot.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs