I have read a little more of this thread, and have found a tone that I am pretty aggrivated with. I am kind of getting the impression that our European friends are talking down to us just a little. It gets a little old hearing about how much better it is in Europe because they don't have any guns, or fat people, or murders, and free healthcare. It probably gets as old as Americans telling them how we saved their butts in Dubya Dubya Two. The point is that Europe has problems. America has problems. America will never lose its love for guns and cheese burgers, and France will never win a war. We just need to realize that we are the civilized world and even if we do differ on some trivial issues, we are all still friends. Or at least we should be.