Do you think it is normal having firearms?

[OnlyIsrael]

Cryoakira said:

OnlyIsrael said:
In America it's legal to own firearms (2nd Amendment) and a basic right. You also have the right to defend yourself and your property (Castle Doctrine). If its not legal in your country then its not, but it is in mine, end of story.
Crime exists in every country irregardless of its laws regarding firearms. Firearms can be involved in violent crimes just as knives, sticks, fists and genitals can be. Criminals commit crimes, tools may or may not be involved. Is there really any point in singling one out other than for political swaggering and/or scare tactics?

BTW go talk to a law enforcement officer about what their experience has proven to them to be the leading cause of crime. The answer will come back, Drugs and/or alcohol.

Ok, so as long as something is legal, then it's perfect from an ethical/moral/ideological point of view ? Wow, interesting. So I guess laws never change in your country ?

Seriously, I agree with you : firearmes are not the origine of crime.

However, they happen to be, generaly, far more lethal than others basic weapons. Before you're able to stop someone with an uzi, he can do a LOT more casualties than someone with a knive or a baseball bat. That is, unless you run faster than a bullet... (i'm not). Firearms create "death opportunity", and that's "normal", since they don't have any other purpose.

Do you think that grenade or rocket launcher or C4 should be sold at Wallmart for self defense ? Probably not, because you think it's far too destructive and dangerous, even disproportionate. I do think the same about firearms.

So tell me how owning a gun is either immoral or unethical? And laws do change but it is extremely difficult to modify the constitution of this country by design.

The Bill of Rights in America is a direct response to fears of an oppressive government squashing the common individual under the brute force of a bureaucracy with no accountability to the people it governs. We had just had a revolution to escape that very model of governance.  The Revolution might be over 200 years old but its sentiments are deeply rooted in the cultural identity of this nation.

I do agree that firearms are a more lethal form of arms. However, it is still a tool where one must have the desire to use it for whatever reason.  What I'm getting at is personal accountability; you cannot blame guns for people’s deaths, you blame people.

Please don't use outdated rhetoric to make your point.  The body politic has decided that items such as C4 etc. are unreasonable. Laws already exist, don't argue a non-issue.

On a personal note, I really don't see how it’s the business of any elected government made up of citizens just like me if I do or do not own firearms.  It is a guaranteed right as set forth in the Bill of Rights and has been tested time and again in our legal and governmental systems. This isn’t true in some countries but it is in mine. Don’t force your ideology (to use a word you brought up) on me.

If you dislike the idea so much move here, become a citizen, get involved and try to do something about it.  If not, I’ll let your countries political system resolve its citizens issues in its own way but please allow me the same courtesy. Long live the revolution.