Killiana1a said:
Baalzamon said:
Killiana1a said:
Kasz216 said:
Killiana1a said:
badgenome said:
No, Juan Williams doesn't make you balanced. But between Juan Williams, Kirsten Powers, Alan Colmes, Susan Estrich, Bob Beckel, Geraldine Ferraro, Alicia Menendez, Ellis Henican, et al, Fox is easily more balanced than either CNN (whose idea of a conservative is Kathleen Parker) or MSNBC (whose idea of a conservative is probably Dennis Kucinich).
By all means, hold everyone accountable. But all complaints about how shitty the media in general, and cable news in particular, is seem to start and end with Fox News. Granted, they are the ratings leader by lightyears, but no one seriously thinks that's why they're the whipping boy. Nor are they especially bad as far as cable news goes. It's because and only because they dare to lean the other way.
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Problem is, all those you listed as progressive are contributors who come in for 2 to 5 minutes at a time.
Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, and Sean Hannity are all conservative and the biggest draws to Fox News in their time slots. Where are their progressive counterparts who have a 1 hour prime time television slot on Fox News?
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What about that is different from MSNBC?
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Nothing. According to the survey in the original OP, MSNBC is by the least watched news network with Fox News being number 1. I will concede MSNBC has emulated Fox News by trying to be the liberal Fox News with Olbermann, Maddow, Matthews, and that crazy guy, yet they still are miles away from CNN and hundres of miles away from Fox News' heels in the ratings race.
Unfair comparison. Fox News by far is the most watched news network. They are more comparable to NY Times and the Washington Post as far as news media goes. Comparing Fox to MSNBC or CNN is like comparing the NY Times to the East Oregonian. You cannot compare the echelon with the gutter.
Personally, as a far Left progressive my preferred news channel is Fox News. They have the hottest news anchors like Megyn Kelly as Howard Stern will attest to. Furthermore, working 10pm to 6am and getting all my media online I watch them for opposition research and for entertainment in how they twist a story by the very words they use such as "Government Option" instead of "Public Option," which their focus group pollster, Frank Luntz stated support is split 50/50 if the "Public Option" would have been used during the 2010 healthcare debate, while using "Government Option" skews Fox News voters more to 70/30 opposed.
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See the problem with what you are saying is that it isn't an unfair comparison. We have had several comments in this thread saying they should have liberal counterparts on FoxNews, when none of the liberal stations have conservative counterparts (they may refer to them as conservative...but they aren't).
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Channel for channel or radio show for radio show just opens an endless discussion.
Regarding cable news, Fox News is the most watched in their prime time spots. Then again, if we combined the viewership of CNN and MSNBC for those same time slots, then we could argue there should be another Fox News.
Regarding radio, every single wannabe counterpart to Rush Limbaugh has failed. Air America and Al Franken's show being the latest. Then again, the publicly funded NPR is fairly Left leaning in terms of their on air commentary.
Regarding blogs, I would dare to say the Left is more entrenched and more adept than the Right. Then again, the Tea Party movement communicates and coordinates via Twitter overwhelmingly.
In a capitalistic society where a public personality becomes successful pitching to a certain crowd, it is a given a lot of individuals will lose their audience. Reasons?
I don't believe it is that Rush Limbaugh's views are more representative than Keith Olbermann's views.
It is more about lifestyle than your views being more representative. Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck garner the largest radio audience because their views are well pitched to rural and suburban folk who commute via car to work everyday. Al Franken and Air America are more urbanized and if you have spent anytime living in a big city like I have, driving to work is not the sole option.Plenty ride bicycles or take mass transit where there is no radio. If your message is pitched to this bicycle and mass transit riding audience, then you will have a hard time staying in business.
As for counter for counter, we will never have it in US society regarding politics and media and I am just fine with it. I don't want the US Government to come in and mandate 50/50 progressive and conservative on any air wave be it radio, television, print, or online.
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