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lolita said:
tolu619 said:
Bobbuffalo said:

Ah really? have you talked with it? saw it? listened to it? touched it? No. you WANT to think that you "experienced" it in any way you want to twist.. But you have no proof. Simple like that.


actually, YES. and regularly too.

Okay then I have some questions (btw this isn't only aimed at you but also to others who say they talk to god):

So if what you say is true, why is it that you hear/see god, when many other people don't? How come god doesn't answer to a lot of people who pray with all their hearts in times of crisis? There's no way a god would speak only to a chosen few and leave everyone else out, that doesn't fit.


One answer I've seen is that if God made his existence certain to all people, he would limit the free action of people. Under this view, free will is a competition between good and bad desires. Believe in God makes the desire to do good significantly outweigh the desire to do bad. People have a disposition to do good out of respect for God. Naurally, becasue the desire to do good significantly outweighs the desire to do bad, the moral action of a person who is certain of God's existence has less moral worth than an agnostic because the beiever has a natural disposition to perform the right action (because of their respect for God). People who lack certainty in God's existence balance more towards doing the bad than the good action, so when they make the good action, their actions have more moral worth because they are combating more bad desires than the certain believer. The point is that God, by witholding his presence, allows for greater moral actions to take place.