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Kasz216 on 18 December 2010
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Tigerlure said:
Kasz216 said:
Tigerlure said:
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Tigerlure said:

Updated with Fox's response to the article. Kind of lame if you ask me, if they feel like something is wrong, they should attack the methodology like you guys are doing (or trying to do) here, not the University it was taken at.


Yeah... I mean, I'm sure he didn't know that "Best Party Schools" fact off hand, meaning it took time to come up with.

 

The methodology is so easy to attack, why they went with a silly cheap shot is beyond me.

And just so I understand, you're criticizing the Survey on the way the questions were asked?

More so on what the questions were.

It wasn't asking "Who was the most misinformed".

It was asking "Who has the most conservative base."

Since there were no Democratic leaning or nuetral leaning questions.

Getting something wrong often has less with the way the news is presented.... and more to do with who it is presented too... like when I asked you "Did they find WMDs in iraq" and showed a link that showed they found WMDs, and your response was "They didn't find WMDs because they were old WMDs."

There was no way I could of more truthfully reported that.

I have to disagree. Questions like "did the stimulus create jobs" and "will healthcare add to the deficit" etc. are not right-wing or left-wing questions. These are questions that have been debated on every political news station. You can't slant these questions as right or left. There are nonpartisan answers to these questions.

Take the stimulus job creation for example. The majority of economists agree it saved jobs, and not just a few. We're talking probably millions of jobs. I think the CBO even did an estimate on this.

Healthcare also, the CBO said it would not add to the deficit. In fact, they said it would REDUCE the deficit. I'd bet my posting rights if the CBO had said this healthcare bill will add to the deficit, Fox News would have had a field day with that.

•   40% of voters believed incorrectly that the TARP legislation was initiated under Barack Obama, rather than George Bush
•   31% believed it was proven true that the US Chamber of Commerce spent large amounts of money it had raised from foreign sources to support Republican candidates
•   54% believed that there were no tax cuts in the stimulus legislation
•   86% assumed their taxes had gone up (38%) or stayed the same (48%), while only 10% were aware that their taxes had gone down since 2009
•   53% thought that the bailout of GM and Chrysler occurred only under Obama, though it was initiated under Bush

If you watch Fox News even today, these are facts that are just flat out ignored by right-wing media.

You can attack the University all you want (something I'm not personally blaming you for), but it doesn't change the results of this study.

What?

You don't think MSNBC was happy with the congressional budget office on that report? (which by the way, pretty much all those deficit reductions have already disapeared.  It still should reduce the defice, but by a paltry amount and only if they change nothing else.)

These ARE Republican and Democratic issues... in that Democrats are happy the results are what they are.

Like how Republicans are happy that areas with lower gun restirctions have less crime... etc.

There are tons of facts republicans like, that Democratic news orginizations ignore too... none of which were included in the survey.