Forza 4 will be the most realistic racer on any console - Microsoft

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huaxiong90 said:

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Hynad said:

oni-link said:

It is what it is indeed.  A lot of my multi-console buds are dissapointed as well and it shows on  the degraded sales.  I'm sure fanboys will spin it but in the end it will end up selling considerably less than GT4 at a higher price tag to Sony!!!

But in the end, it ends up selling considerably more than Forza 3.  It is what it is indeed. *rolleyes*

Just don't bother, in the minds of people like this, anybody who disagrees = automatic fanboy. There's just no room for logical discussion, and his history shows this.

Just calling it how it is not need to  be bummed all over.  I am actually bringing up valid points which no one has yet to solidly counter is all!!! Also, I hope the kettle stops calling the black hot since you should know your faults as well!!!

"Degraded sales" when VGC says otherwise and anecdotal evidence are valid points? Seriously? Good job on proving my point: There's no reason to try and reason with you. You're right in the fact that it probably won't sell GT4 numbers, but have you seen how well GT5 held up in the third week?

Exact point I am trying to make.  I didn't say GT5 was a failure (3M sales is 3M sales that is a success despite my feelings for Sony) if you read my post all I meant to prove is that GT5 dissapointed many of my known Sony rivals (even ones that pledge allegiance to SDF) and it shows in it's lower sales compared to GT4.  GT5 is a sales success but also has many dissapointments scoring less than Forza3 in gamerankings etc.  Plus with it's massive cost compared to Forza it's success over that franchise is a bit muted.  Don't get me wrong I like GT5 and it's not overhyped like some other games (GoW3) but after 6 years of development I thought it would blow my Forza3 by a large margin.  It did not; and it is what it is!!!