Squilliam said:
goforgold said:
Squilliam said:
I would say that based on the reviews Forza 3 was the better game of the two, reviewers as a whole were not reviewing simulators but driving games so the standard there was a different one. So whether or not anyone feels GT5 is a better/worse simulator doesn't matter because neither game was reviewed as a simulator.
To put it mildly Forza 3 did better than GT5 because it had better prioritisation of development resources.
Supposed excellence in driving recreation? Irrelevant to most game reviewers.
Having >1000 cars? Doesn't really matter when you have more than 400, heck even 100 is pretty overkill.
Rewind mode, better assists, accessibility all matter.
Online mode? Matters, apparantly the mode in Forza 3 is better.
Menu system? Matters, apparantly the menus are better in Forza 3.
Gameplay smoothness? Matters because noone likes slowdowns and it makes the game easier to play.
Etc, a lot of points have been covered to death.
GT5 has no right to be reviewed for the <10% of people who will play it for the fact it is a simulation, so in this case the reviewers were right to review based on the fitness of purpose for the intended audience. If GT5 is a low selling niche title then it deserves to be reviewed as one, however GT games tend to sell close to or upwards of 10M units.
Im not saying that 87% is a bad score or that the 92% of Forza 3 makes it a better game under any and all circumstances. However the reviewers got it right in this case when reviewing the games as games and according to the wishes of the wider target audience and not the narrow hardcore sim fan base.
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the biggest load of crap I have ever read, and on that note the biggest FAILURE of this generation, how the HELL is it a bad thing for a game to be what it WANTS to be.....
there is no amout of facepalms that can surfice the dissapontment in the shear truth of that satement.
"Not all games need to be designed to appeal to EVERYONE and back in the day, there was much more variety on the shelves than there is today and that was a good thing. So the hope is we can find our people/find our tribe and treat them like the Gods they are. We take care of them and they'll take care of us." <--- David Jaffe
what the fudge has happened to gamers these days, it'a so sad
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I'll find you a farm simulator. The most perfect and best farm simulator out there, totally realistic. Now, you'd give it a 100% score because its the perfect farm simulator or 50% because thats the best you can muster as its the most boring thing you've played in your life?
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that's actually a perfect example of how sad this generation is.
who are you to tell anybody what they like is a bad thing. have you ever stopped to wonder, maybe I find this boring because this is not my type of game and it wasn't made for me??? what about the people that would possibly LOVE farm simulators???? screw them right because I think it's boring. And there goes the death of true variety. This makes me a very sad gamer.
there used to be tons of games, that provided tons of different experiences, and it was OUR choice in what we wanted to play, and the simple fact that we had a choice because there were so many choices. No one cared if a game sold 10 million or 10 units as long as the people who brought the game loved it and the developers supported it.
how many game have we passed up because the reviewer shafted it for being or not being something it never wanted to be. How many developers had to close up shop because they didn't make a mass market game. how many gamers deprived themselves from games that they probably would have loved had they given those games a chance and not focused on how different it is from that other mass market game, how many....... *sigh*
but what's even funny is how you talk about GT's fanbase as if it's small, no GT has ever sold under 9 million units. and GT5 is no different a experience for those gamers.
as it stands now, Inside Sim Racing is probably the only review I would trust as the most accurate. they did a 50 minute PART ONE review with there next part coming out next year.
