Why did FM3 score higher than GT5?

[Reasonable]

Squilliam said:

I would say that based on the reviews Forza 3 was the better game of the two, reviewers as a whole were not reviewing simulators but driving games so the standard there was a different one. So whether or not anyone feels GT5 is a better/worse simulator doesn't matter because neither game was reviewed as a simulator.

To put it mildly Forza 3 did better than GT5 because it had better prioritisation of development resources.

Supposed excellence in driving recreation? Irrelevant to most game reviewers.

Having >1000 cars? Doesn't really matter when you have more than 400, heck even 100 is pretty overkill.

Rewind mode, better assists, accessibility all matter.

Online mode? Matters, apparantly the mode in Forza 3 is better.

Menu system? Matters, apparantly the menus are better in Forza 3.

Gameplay smoothness? Matters because noone likes slowdowns and it makes the game easier to play.

Etc, a lot of points have been covered to death.

GT5 has no right to be reviewed for the <10% of people who will play it for the fact it is a simulation, so in this case the reviewers were right to review based on the fitness of purpose for the intended audience. If GT5 is a low selling niche title then it deserves to be reviewed as one, however GT games tend to sell close to or upwards of 10M units.

Im not saying that 87% is a bad score or that the 92% of Forza 3 makes it a better game under any and all circumstances. However the reviewers got it right in this case when reviewing the games as games and according to the wishes of the wider target audience and not the narrow hardcore sim fan base.

 

Way too look good, summarizing my superior post for punchy effect!  Some buddy you are!

And I agree mostly, although I think that your approach essentially invalidates the idea of catering to a niche and over compensates for the masses, which isn't fair, it also implies Transformers should score higher than Moon, which I can't allow.

I think for something like GT5 (i.e. a title which is clearly covering two bases) reviewers should use the dependable double score - as a videogame 88%, as a driving simulator, 93%.  Which, funnily enough, are the scores I'd give GT5 in each category.

Forza 3, before anyone asks, I'd score  91% as a videogame and 87% as a driving simulator.

Reasonable Forecast - Forza 4 will attempt to expand the simulator side to cater more to the niche (which going by the sales Squlliam, which you seem to be ignorning, may be more than the niche anyway ,particularly in EMEA, which explains why we make better cars here!) as well as beef up the fun side.  GT5 will receive patches/DLC which will attempt to do the same.  Forums will continue to melt when either title is invoked.