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SvennoJ on 12 December 2010
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SHMUPGurus said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:

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In every level there are a number of things that WILL kill you the first time you come across them. Progression boils down to getting to an obstacle, death, trying again, success (sometimes). Then 5 seconds later you repeat this on another obstacle. And it goes on like this until you reach a checkpoint, at which stage you've gone through that section of the level at least 5 times. Now repeat that entire process twice and the level is over. RELIEF. But there's no sense of accomplishment. It feels like my memory is what got me through rather than skill.

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Implying you didn't have to memorize parts in pretty much all the old games on planet Earth... And implying Donkey Kong Country Returns is not returning to old roots...

I love the fact that I die in this game. This is exactly what I was expecting, and I got what I expected. No bad comment from me.

I think this generation of gaming made you soft.

Dying is not the problem. Running out of lives and getting kicked out of the level constantly in co-op is extremely annoying. Yes you can collect lives and coins by replaying old levels but we go through 80 lives in 20 minutes in world 4 in co-op. Most of the time you're together in a cart or rocket, which is not a lot of fun in co-op anyway and you lose two lives on each mistake / new level section. You only get 3 balloons after a game over in co-op, means you can die twice before getting kicked out of the level again (resetting the checkpoints).

I went on in single player until world 6, where single player isn't fun anymore either. Every platform sinks or crumbles. The game is constantly chasing you on one way or another. NSMB was hard too, but a lot more fun to play.

Some more checkpoints and get rid of the lives system would have helped a lot with the frustration level. The superguide is not a solution. It doesn't reveal anything new, it's obvious what you need to do all the time, you just have to know in advance what's coming.