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DonFerrari said:
Seece said:

That isn't my argument, and that's not why Halo is in a different league, the franchise speaks for itself (Halo that is)

I'm not debating the games quality, I'm sure they're all very good games, but they were overhyped, meaning they'd never achieve what the people here would have you believe (and all over the net) like I said, apart from Reach, I don't see any other 360 games being the same, perhaps Alan Wake in some respects.

FM3 were way overhyped by the publisher... saying they never bullshot (and admited they did later) and that they would be muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch better than any GT would ever be... did they live to the hype? just in the eyes of people who just see what they want...

So everyone that sees Forza 3 as better than GT5 is seeing what they want to see? lol