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CGI-Quality said:

Seece said:

Wasn't talking about sales remotely. PS3 had several games delayed this holiday into next year, so much so it only had GT5 :-S and even that wasn't a dead cert only a month ago. 


I didn't say the games were bad, just overhyped (and they are, don't need to play them to guage fan reaction)

At your last comment, wrong. Until E3 2009 MS rarely gave out news on upcoming games, but decided to for 2010 for some reason.

Well overhyped is subjective. And again, I wouldn't expect a realistic opinion without experience, but I guess that's just me. The only other game delayed was LBP 2, which was smart given what it had to go up against. Considering what kind of year PS3 had, I don't think anyone is going to complain about what it did in 2010. And outside of Halo: Reach, MS didn't have many core games for the holiday either  :-S Doesn't matter though, as neither fanbase was complaining.

Your last sentence isn't true. I was excited about plenty of upcoming games in 2007 & 2008 for the 360 because of pre-hype. Microsoft doesn't announce as many games as Nintendo or Sony, true, but they do have game announcements. As I've said, even sites backing MS have noticed that 2011 looks a little empty at the moment. With the VGAs, however, I'm sure they've got stuff to announce, which is great.

Limiting it to core games really isn't fair, as we're talking about exclusives (which are typically 1st/2nd party offerings).  But Halo Reach and Fable III are two huge core holiday releases.  Kinect's offerings added more all ages exclusives.  Most importantly, though, nothing was delayed.

One of my favorite games this gen for the 360 was formally revealed some 2 months before it was released (Shadow Complex) and Forza III was similar.  Both games went on to sell great numbers, get high metacritic scores and were enjoyed by hundreds of thousands of gamers.  For me personally (and a number of other gamers that gave it a chance) I can add Banjo Kazooie: Nut and Bolts to that.  So a game doesn't need years of hype to sell well and satisfy gamers on the 360.  The apparent lack of 2011 MGS titles shouldn't have caused concern to anyone that's been paying attention this gen.

As for the VGA's ........ have we ever seen any good gameplay reveals there?  They've always been cinematic reveals for games that are sometimes very far off (Keighley said there is one "Coming 2013" game that will be revealed).  So I guess I've tempered my excitement for only announcements and nothing all that exciting to see.