When will 360 be in the black?

[DirtyP2002]

with the unprofitable WinMo (let's see how WP7 does), Kin, Surface, Zune - I think it is fair to say the Xbox 360 is already profitable. A 1.4 billion loss for all the products I listed since 2005 is a VERY low estimate and that would be enough for the Xbox 360 to be profitable.