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sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:

It directly disproves your "Women often cry rape" claim.

 

But according to you, if someone pretends to be their twin brother an sleeps with a women?  Rape or not?

Well maybe "often" was an inappropriate term. I should've used "sometimes".

As for the twin brother thing.

http://wendyista.blogspot.com/2009/08/man-pretends-to-be-his-identical-twin.html

Here's a case just like that. However the accusations are of rape because the guy actually forced her to have sex with him after she realised she got the wrong brother and wanted to stop, not because he pretended to be his twin brother. So unless it's a forced sexual act it's not rape.

Also, you didn't answer my question:  If a man and a woman had sex, and the man said "I won't have sex with you unless you're on the pill" and the woman lied that she was, would that also be considered rape?

Yes.  Why wouldn't it be?   It's not as serious of rape because the risk of sexual infection is the same, but it's still rape.

Someone specifcally said "I will only sleep with you on these terms."

You agree to those terms knowing fully well that you aren't following them.

Making the sex unconsensual.

Unconsensual sex = rape.

How anyone could think otherwise is beyond me.

The fact that you don't think the above story would be rape without the violence is just outright sickening.

 

Once you knowingly and willingly do something that was specifically forbidden before the encounter it is rape.

MANY rape victims who have been date rape specifcally don't fight back because of the fear, they freeze up.  So holding a physical standard of fighting back is pure bullshit.