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jarrod said:
tjallern said:
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Jay520 said:

I don't think that's fair. COLOR is a very serious upgrade.

The Dsi is much more advanced. It has a camera, online store, built in MPS3 player, internet browser, and much more.

PS2 is still king and will be for a long time.

Those upgrades don't have a big influence on the games that can be played on the previous model, thus it makes not much of a difference for the average gamer which model he/she owns.

My PS2 example didn't seem to do anything to change your opinion, so let me ask you a question: The earliest PS3 models had the ability to play all PS2 games while later models removed PS2 BC altogether. Should the early PS3 sales now be counted seperately or is the difference negligible?

Uhm...? The PS3 is made for PS3 games, not PS2 games, and ALL PS3s can play ALL PS3 games. Fail comparison is fail. Actually, you kind of prove his point, because no PS2 can play ANY PS3 games and NO DS can play ANY DSi games.. Therefore a DS should be considered the same as a PS2 and a DSi should be considered the same as a PS3.

I think he has a point, and I support it. If some games on DSi cannot be played on the DS, they are different systems, IMO. Therefore I don't think it's "fair" to count them as a single system. That's my opinion. IMO that would be counting PS2 and PS3 as the same, and they are most definitely not.

sorry for double posting btw...

You can't play FFXI on a PS2 slim.  I guess PS2 slim should be counted as a different system too then?

Ok! Be my guest, tbh I don't care. Soooo, now what's your next move? You honestly thought I would care? Because you obviously cared about DS and DSi being separate systems (and they are). DSi is backward compatible with the DS, and the DS has (as far as I'm concerned) neither an official add-on nor an unofficial add-on that enables it to play DSi games. If it did, there would've been no debate, but it cannot (please correct me if I am wrong, and I will stand corrected).

if FFXI is not possible on all PS2s (and all the other games requiring a HDD), then yes, all systems which are able to use the hdd add-on should be considered as different consoles, PS2 and PS2.5 (PStwo or PS1.5 since it essentially is a downgrade, hehe), thus have separate sales.