By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
Kasz216 on 26 November 2010
Edit Thread
mrstickball said:
Soleron said:
ramses01 said:
...

Do not insult libertarians by calling a psychotic bimbo libertarian.  If you think she is libertarian then you don't know much about libertarianism.

This. The Tea Party's apparent message is one of small government, but the people behind it are far-right conservatives who wouldn't actually do that if they got in power. They'd push the tax cuts, religion, hawkish foreign policy and restriction of liberties like their predecessors, and be as financially responsible as Bush. Palin clearly falls in that category.

The biggest issue is her lack of intelligence and inability to admit differing viewpoints. To be an effective President you have to be pragmatic and centrist - I don't think she's capable.

Ask any Libertarian what they think about the Tea Party. 95% will tell you that its a sham. Better yet, check the 300 post thread on the Libertarian Party's Facebook page. It sums up what they feel about the TP.

Any true-blue Libertarian is going to tell you why they hate the GOP:

  • They don't like civil rights (gay marriage/unions, abortion, drugs)
  • They won't actually reduce the size of government (massive increases in federal spending since the Nixon-era, Bush's war and defense increases)
  • Libertarians are mostly non-interventionist for foreign military policy. Most have dissaproved of every American war since Korea.

    • And for the same reason, they will tell you that, for the same reasons, they dislike the tea party, because when it matters, it will be unlikely that the GOP will actually do whats needed to bring the government down to size. That is not saying that there aren't great GOP guys like Paul Ryan, Ron Paul, and Chris Christie when it comes to government...But the fact is, 60-70% of the GOP are still life-termers that want to pander to their consitituents with promises of government taking care of them, and are too fearful of making the difficult choices in order to fix America's problems.

    I agree and yet disagree.

    I think most (but not all) of the Tea Party are old school republicans vs neo-cons and a decent number of them will be forced to "stay" to those ideals, meaning the tea party generally won't be doing anything in congress because they won't have the leverage to make deals.

     

    There was a good chance for it to turn into a powerful libretarian party, the problem was the Democrats sabotaged it immediatly with the whole "They're racist" claim.

    Back before their idelogy jelled they would of accepted anyone right up to a gay black lesbaian who is an illegal immigrant, so long as they were for lowering the budget.

    They even supported Democratic candidates in the early going that were fiscally conservative.

    They never got the second half of the "fiscal conservative" branch to come over though.

    The reason they aren't more Libretarian is because not enough Libretarians came over back when they needed views to jell.

     

    I doubt they'll just be "same old" republicans though.  The GOP is spending waaaay to much money to specifically destroy them for that.