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Farmageddon on 23 November 2010
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pizzahut451 said:
Barozi said:

Exactly because by your definition you've taken away the sperm's chances to ever become an embryo and therefore a human being.

So by chosing to ejaculate on the floor you've basically done the same as by chosing to abort an embryo.

Again where is the difference ?

You only mentioned the difference between the probability of surviving of sperm on the floor and an embryo inside the womb, but that wasn't the question.

even if you ejaculate inside a woman 200 million sperm cells die and only 1 gets to the egg. So lots of semen ARE MEANT TO DIE one way or another.It doesnt make a difrence if you ejaculate on the floor or not. But you are saying that we should kill that last one who has made it to the egg against all odds and is about to become a human (unlike others, who just had no luck i guess)

Don't you see that by deciding not to have a baby before conception you're deciding not to let a future human live just as much as you are if you abort a fetus? There's really no practical difference.

If you are fertile and get a fertile partner and have unprotected sex a few times a baby is bound to be born eventually. If you decide not to do this, you decide to not let a baby live. If there's a fetus at a woman's womb and you do nothing, it'll eventually become a baby. If you decide to abort, you won't let the baby live.

There's really no difference, you "kill a future human being" in both cases so, again, if abortion is murder, so is not activelly tring to have a baby.

You can argue I'm talking about an inaction but it's really the same, either way you're making a decision with the exact same consequence and for a few personal reasons. Basically you're deciding someone won't live because you don't feel like it.

Can you see the logic of this agument? Do you agree? If not, why is it wrong?

Unless of course you actually belive everyone should dedicate their lives to making as many babys as possible, which would make you view internally consistent.