Gran Turismo 5 will fail to sell...

[Blue3]

Michael-5 said:

Blue3 said:

Michael-5 said:

Freiza is right about 1 thing. GT5 is being released the week of Black Friday, typically a week where all games get a fairly large sales boost. So we know week 1 it will sell above 1.5 million units.

However this means nothing, you can't exactly compare GT5 week 1, or even month 1 sales to GT4 because it's being released right during the peak holiday window. It's like comparing Halo 2 to Halo 3, In the first 10 weeks Halo 2 outsold Halo 3 because of the November release date (vs september for Halo 3), however Halo 3 ended up selling 3 million more copies.

Also the ODST vs. GT5P comment was a pretty good one, except the numbers were off. (6 million vs 5, not 4).

He makes a good arguement for why GT5 will not sell 10 million units, I mean no PS3 games (nvm exclusive) has sold that well. People may say Uncharted, and God of War broke those sale ideologies (MGS4 was heavily bundled with the last backward compatible PS3), but those games are still only looking at roughly 4 million LTD sales. GT5 is of another league, it may not be as successful as prior installments, lets not forget GT for PSP.

I think both Freiza and the people who are debating with him should all calm down. Your entitled to your own opinion, lets not attack each other over it. 6-8 million is not entirely unrealistic (I'm predicting 9.3 btw).

I think all Freiza intended to do was attack the 40% of voters who beleive GT5 will outsell GT3, because....well it is a little over eggagerated. He was a bit rude, but being rude in return doesn't solve anything. I mean I see these same people attack others who predict sub-6 million, so how are you guys any different from Freiza?

Lets stop the bickering and all join in for a big hug <---I'm joking, don't touch me!!! AHHH!!!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

He makes no good arguments, you only say he does casue you agree atleast partly with him.  

These guys are diffderant cause they get their point across in a more respectfull manner liek adults, not tamper throwing children.  They make intelligent points that make sense, not just opnion as fact like him.  

Sub 6 million aren't predictions they are troll jobs, 6-8 million is totally unealistic to anyone with a shread of smarts.

Well he does, you just refuse to accept them because you disagree, which is fine. Just don't discredit him.

Freiza is by far not the only person on this forum that bickers about their opinion, and we are all very opinionated. Thinking GT5 won't sell above 8 million because of believeing it won't outsell GTA4 or Modern Warfare 2 is not an intelligent post? Comparing ODST sales to GT5P sales isn't either?

He was just pushing his opinion to hard, trying to force people to agree with him, that was his downfall.

6-8 million is not as unrealistic as you think, GT5 has many bad things going for it, and the normal range for a GT game that isn't heavily bundled is 9-11 million. I mean there are a lot of good things going for it, but there is nothing wrong with having a low prediction. I mean just look at how silly most people are predicting sales for this game. 41% think better then 15 million, and 14% think it will sell within a specific 300k band between second and third. Freiza at least has a somewhat reasonable belief for the game selling poorly.

Did Alan Wake not sell significantly less then most predicted it would?? hmm..... Freiza correctly predicted that game would also sell lower then predictions. Don't hate him because he doesn't view GT5 as highly as most other people here.

I'm just tired of seeing stupid debates here. He is at fault, he pressed a lot harder then he should have, but it's not as if he were unprovoked.

No he does not, his  views just come closer to yours then the 15m people so you naturally agree with him more.  Its basic human psychology you back and defend those you agree with more no matter how nutty or not they may be, you clearly have a pro bias to those that are on the low end of GT5 sales.  Its ok dude.  

 

No problem with people arguing when they use facts and intelligence to back up their opinion. His way is not inteligent, i cant say yours is all to great either.  

For the MW2 or GTA4 arguemnt to be intlligent it would have to factor in that they multi platform games while one is a exclusives and factor in their combimed sales on 360/PS3.  For example GTA4 did X numbers on a combined PS3/360 user base of 60 whateber so yadi yadi GT5 will do X number - 1m of that given PS3 will be at 60 million in two years yadi yadi yada and GTA4 or whatever did X on both on a x user base so GT5 sales will be X.

See the differance ? crying GT wont sale X cause multi plats faield to do it on one damn console and cherr picking the lower selling game is pretty ignorant to me.

 

Also why use multi plat sales from the PS3 ? Clearly PS3 suer base is not and never was shooter crazy liek Xnation ? Why not say well MW2 did 12 on 360s 45 user base so its ONLY damn likely GT5 will do as well if not batter.

And if you are a anti GT5 liek you are lets be honest, well use MW2 did 12 on 360 and 9 on PS3 so medium 10.5 million and there GT5 is liely to do around 10.5

See in a intelligent manner i just showed GT5 will could/should do as well as all the other GTs, 10 million ish sales.   Pretty easy fact and numbers based and it shows what we all know, GT does 10 million and guess what history proves this right.  



41% think better then 15 million, and 14% think it will sell within a specific 300k band between second and third. Freiza at least has a somewhat reasonable belief for the game selling poorly."

In no was is his low sales prediction somewhat resonable, GT5p proves its nothing but a troll job.

15million predictions are not silly, you just lack the ability to understand their reasoning for it.

If youd liek i can back 15m prediction with a intelligent facts based logical manner.