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NiKKoM said:

Ask Sega.... >_>

... i still love you *hugs dreamcast*

Going under is noted to having an effect on fanboys.  The sheer defeat either has someone remain a well-tempered loyalist, who can't boast about a console (without being laughed at), or they move onto another console and be annoying there.  Proof on this?  If I end up doing, as I had before, a "Atari Jaguar rules all" thread on here to hype Tempest 2000 and a few of the good games on it, and try to talk trash, it definitely has a humor effect.   Even if I am an Atari loyalist now, I can't be a fanboy.