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Kasz216 said:
Bladeneo said:

 

Except, you are suggesting LeBron was mad becuase they didn't get any of those big trades.

Which you know, would of required Hickson.  Who he wanted to keep.

So how are both of those things possible?

 

As for firing Mike Brown.  I disagree... it's happened before with big performances.  2009 was the perfect chance to fire him because he did not adjust his gameplans and had the same dumb subsitution issues.

Hickson was drafted in 2008...they had 4 years of missed opportunities and bad trades before then which Hickson wasn't a part of. Players like Gooden, Szczerbiak, Wallace; a laundry list of average, average players. 

Vs what other options?

The fact is the Cavs gave up draft picks left right and centre to acquire subpar players and didn't expect it to come back and bite them. Are you telling me other teams didn't make big moves during those seasons? Ray Allen (and glen davis) went to the Celtics for Szczerbiak, West and Jeff Greene! I think we remember where two of those players have played, Pau Gasol was traded for what amounted to a snickers and about $12 in change.

I even forgot about Larry Hughes; the Cavs had nothing to trade with because they took awful, AWFUL contracts and were so strapped for cash even with Lebron earning 5 million a year in 2006. 

Except... they didn't give up draft picks left right and center? 

Larry Hughes they signed as a free agent.

They got Wallace and Sczerbiak in a trade that involved NO draftpicks.

They got Gooden in a deal that netted Varejao AND 2 draft picks.

They traded away a total of 3 picks in 7 years... but also traded for a pick.

So, they traded a way a total of 2 draft picks.


Getting good players in steals has little to do with "wanting" them and more with having the right number of expiring contracts at the right year.  Which by the way the Celtics had when they got ray allen.

You may be a fan of the game, but it's pretty clear you don't know much about the salary cap/trade portion of it.

I'd call not having a first round pick in 2005 or 2007, and trading away Shannon Brown who was drafted in 2008, pretty disappointing draft policy. 

It's irrelevant what you think I know about the salary cap or trading, that has absolutely nothing to do with me being able to recognize trading away Gooden, Hughes and Shannon Brown (now a key piece off the Lakers bench) for an aging, ineffective Ben Wallace  was a bad choice. I can't disagree with the Szczerbiak trade that much because Delonte West was worth Donyell Marshall and Ira Newble. But whatever, you can just go back to insulting my intelligence I guess. 



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