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Bladeneo said:
Kasz216 said:
Bladeneo said:
Kasz216 said:
Bladeneo said:
Kasz216 said:


Keeping Hickson was never a bad thing though; many critics considered him to be the most talented player, offensively, that LeBron had played with in Cleveland (which says everything really). On paper the Jamison deal looked great, he was more flexible and dynamic than Amar'e and cost the Cavs next to nothing, but again it was another one of those deals that didn't pan out. Just the Mo Williams deal, just like the Ben Wallace deal, like pretty much every deal Mike Brown and Ferry made.

Mike Brown wasn't a great coach by any stretch, but no way the Cavs could justify firing a guy who won coach of the year and took them to two 60 win seasons. Oh sure, everyone accepted it was pretty much LeBron doing all the leading on and off the court, but you can't go ahead and fire a guy when your playoff run went like this:

2007 Finals

2008 Celtics in 7, an amazing series and lost mainly due to Paul Pierce going insanse

2009 Magic, a series that was much closer than people accept and really, Rashard Lewis turned into a clutch machine with his three points

It was only until 2010 when there was no plausible explanation other than bad players, a subpar Lebron performance and bad coaching decisions that there was much to complain about. 

Except, you are suggesting LeBron was mad becuase they didn't get any of those big trades.

Which you know, would of required Hickson.  Who he wanted to keep.

So how are both of those things possible?

 

As for firing Mike Brown.  I disagree... it's happened before with big performances.  2009 was the perfect chance to fire him because he did not adjust his gameplans and had the same dumb subsitution issues.

Hickson was drafted in 2008...they had 4 years of missed opportunities and bad trades before then which Hickson wasn't a part of. Players like Gooden, Szczerbiak, Wallace; a laundry list of average, average players. 

Vs what other options?

The fact is the Cavs gave up draft picks left right and centre to acquire subpar players and didn't expect it to come back and bite them. Are you telling me other teams didn't make big moves during those seasons? Ray Allen (and glen davis) went to the Celtics for Szczerbiak, West and Jeff Greene! I think we remember where two of those players have played, Pau Gasol was traded for what amounted to a snickers and about $12 in change.

I even forgot about Larry Hughes; the Cavs had nothing to trade with because they took awful, AWFUL contracts and were so strapped for cash even with Lebron earning 5 million a year in 2006. 

Except... they didn't give up draft picks left right and center? 

Larry Hughes they signed as a free agent.

They got Wallace and Sczerbiak in a trade that involved NO draftpicks.

They got Gooden in a deal that netted Varejao AND 2 draft picks.

They traded away a total of 3 picks in 7 years... but also traded for a pick.

So, they traded a way a total of 2 draft picks.


Getting good players in steals has little to do with "wanting" them and more with having the right number of expiring contracts at the right year.  Which by the way the Celtics had when they got ray allen.

You may be a fan of the game, but it's pretty clear you don't know much about the salary cap/trade portion of it.