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dsister said:
Pellefant said:

The difference is that people that go out looking for a fight and end up fighing men, DON'T do it because they hate men in general. If you target someone because they are gay I would say that makes it a hate crime. mos def:)

How else would you define hate crime?

I'm not saying it isn't a hate crime. I'm saying why should it matter.

If I were to go out and get beaten up and the guy were to get five years in prison. 
Then a gay or black man were to go out and get beaten up and the guy was to get 10 years in prison because it was deemed a "hate crime". How is that fair to me?

I keep hearing gays say "give us equality" then people cheer when someone that attacks a gay person is charged with a hate crime then given a larger jail term. How is that equality?

It's gonna be tricky to explain what I mean here but I'll give it a try:

There's a difference in treating someone equal and treating someone fair. You can treat all people equal but tha doesn't mean you treat them fair. People have different needs and should be treated accordingly. Well, at least, imo.

It's fair because it's needed. It's not like your attacker gets a special deal because he only attacked a random "normal" dude.

That's nice...I can't log out.