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nordlead said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Where do we draw a line on 1st party?

I mean Microsoft didn't own Bungie. So those aren't 1st party games?

I don't believe those Mario Party games were developed by Nintendo either.

We don't draw the line, the industry does.

1st party - software developed by part of the company that manufactures hardware.

3rd party - software developed by a company not owned by the hardware manufacturer.

3rd party games can still be published by the hardware manufacturer.

Some people like to distinguish 2nd party, which would be a 3rd party developer who essentially have a an exclusive agreement with the hardware manufacturer. Hal Laboratories is sometimes considered a 2nd party, but it is wholly owned by Nintendo making them a first party or a subsidiary.

Microsoft did own Bungie up until shortly after Halo 3. All the Halo titles prior were 1st party, and those after were 3rd party published by Microsoft.

Where has the "industry" ever been adamant about declaring something 1st or 3rd party?

All it is is an argument of semantics, and a convenient way to rule out certain games in list wars on this site.



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